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Pillar of the Community
United States
882 Posts |
That coin looks like the same out I had. The CC is a dead giveaway.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1173 Posts |
I would agree that this is a forgery. Look at the eagle's head, neck and breast. Compare to Morganman's coin and you'll see a lack of detail, especially in the head and neck. This looks like a coin that was "made" to look old.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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looks like a fake to me also and not a verry good fake at that. Look at how deformed the letters and numbers look, it is a poorly made cast copy
Edited by Bryan1315
04/25/2007 2:06 pm
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Valued Member
United States
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Gee, that is really bad news hankash. Me being a newbie, I wouldn't have caught it either.
Examining the pics a little, there is what I would call a "pit" in the field behind her hair/hat that looks suspicious as well as a deep crack on the reverse under the Eagle's beak. Does anyone have any expertise on if these kinds of marks would indicate a counterfeit coin, or I can expect those kinds of markings on authentic pieces? They look like a casting problem that wouldn't appear on an authentic coin.
Although this experience might hurt, I think putting it up on this forum will help us all avoid this in the future!
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Forum Mom
 United States
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Unfortunately, I'm pretty sure this coin is a fake. It looks to me like there is a casting line visible on the obverse edge. This is the second line that you see on the rim.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
954 Posts |
I agree with everyone else. Not real......so sorry.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
14454 Posts |
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there is what I would call a "pit" in the field behind her hair/hat that looks suspicious as well
That is most likely an air bubble that busted while it was in the mold |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
834 Posts |
The key for me that this coin is a fack is the position of the mint mark the CC just is not in the right position in my opinion.
Bruce.
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Valued Member
United States
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The rim on the obverse at 4 o'clock looks "crisp" or out of place compared with the rest of the coin. Is this the casting line that Susan's referring to? Also the coin looks worn but in a pattern not consistent with normal wear, almost like it's been in a rock tumbler. If this was in fact wear, shouldn't those crisp rims be worn off? This is an excellent reference for people like myself that haven't seen fakes before.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1984 Posts |
Sorry to be blunt, that coin is fake. Hope you didn't pay too much and can locate the person who sold it to you.
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New Member
 Yemen
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I would to thank all who contributed with their opinions and expertise, Been insightful for me, my problem is that I live in part the world where there is no professional coin services at all, and forgery is allowed and not penalized. This is another 1878s US Dollar, with 38mm of Diameter and 26.7 grams. Any opinion is more then appreciated, thank you all Image:  1878 s-R.jpg99.53 KB Image: 1889 s -O.jpg72.5 KB |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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the 78 is fake as well, it has the reverse of a 1921 because it has the micro "S" and that is a usual reverse used on these fake Morgans
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Whereever you are getting your coins from, you better back off for now. It doesn't seem to be a good place to get them.
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New Member
Yemen
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Thank you for your concern "gxseries", but the bad part of the story is that at first I bought a good lot of fakes, but now after knowing more about it, knowing how much these coins should weight, specially morgans, all id o is take pictures at the dealer shop and bring them here for your opinions. Now I have taken some new pictures, of some 26,6 and 26,7 grams morgans and again need your help guys. Thank you. Sorry for the quality of the pictures but I took them at the dealer shop and did not have the best conditions there. Image: 1887-O.jpg52.05 KB Image: 1887-R.jpg72.51 KB |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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1889cc is not even a genuine morgan. its a cast or a false die. the reverse is an 1878-1879 style, type II. 1889 had different dies. the mint mark is also the wrong style, possibly an 1878 but could also be fake. the obverse looks to be a genuine cast of an 1889. most likely, someone made a cast die of an 1889 obverse and a 1878cc reverse. the 1878s and the 1887 could be genuine, but theyre in very bad condition anyway. if I were you, I would stop going to that dealer. if he cannot tell the difference between a genuine 1889cc and that coin, he's very inexperienced with the coins. he probably did know but tried to sell it anyway.
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