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Thanks so much for the link to that ~$1600 R & B MS 63.
It seems to be a lot more Brown when compared to mine or maybe it's just the lighting.
I will have to get mine and see how much Red is actually on the Reverse,... and then start taking better pics for here.
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02/26/2013 10:38 am
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It seems to be a lot more Brown when compared to mine or maybe it's just the lighting.  Yours is a much nicer coin. |
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United States
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Great condition for such an old coin.  |
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Here is the Reverse ...and it's darker than the added Obverse.   |
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wow what a great coin and Graded too!
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In my book I catalogued this one as OC2/RC9. It has five stems re-engraved on the reverse and a very visible re-punched G on the obverse. About 3% of all 1858 cents come from this die marriage. Nice coin.
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02/28/2013 12:15 am
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Out of curiosity, this is an open question to all: What is the prevailing opinion on "lacquered"?
I know it was a common practice 75+ years ago to preserve the red state of coppers by a dip in lacquer. But, how detrimental to value do you think it is?
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02/28/2013 11:00 am
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That's an interesting subject dialog. Worthy of its own post! And a very nice coin devlac.
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Yes, I also wish to know more about lacquered coins and how it could affect pricing. I came across a few and I didn't touch them because I consider that undesirable. Is it ok with Canadian coins?
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PCGS usually will not grade a lacquered coin. They consider it damaged and will return it as "Genuine".
In my opinion, the effect on value depends upon the coin. On a very rare, or condition rare, coin, it may not effect the value at all. For example, there is an ICCS graded 1858 cent in ICCS MS-65 full red that is lacquered. As I recall, it last sold for about $7,000 because it may be the nicest surviving 1858 cent. Conversely, there are quite a few MS-63 RB 1858 cents out there without lacquer, so I think it does adversely affect the value of this coin. Hard to say how much though.
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Lacquer can sometimes be removed with solvents (naptha, acetone, lacquer thinner). It is ALWAYS risky, since coins react differently to these solvents. Sometimes the solvents remove the lacquer with no effect at all to the coin. Sometimes they cause a copper or bronze coin to change color (think deep blue or violet). Also, these solvents are dangerous. Always follow directions and use a very well ventilated area. They also can be absorbed through the skin. As one example, here is one with the lacquer safely removed. Now in a PCGS 66RB holder. When I bought it (raw), it had a thick coating of lacquer, which had probably been on the coin a very long time.  Edited by bosox
02/28/2013 7:21 pm
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What a great coin and so perfect without the lacquer.
I think that many of mine have a reflective sheen on them. Must be a coating of lacquer. Was probably meant to keep the tarnish away but does not look natural with the shine.
Did you do the PGCS grading after all of the pics were taken?
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No. This coin was photographed through the PCGS plastic. BTW, you can still see a small spot of lacquer in front of the monarch's kisser. The mark in her hair is a tiny planchet flaw.
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Hard to believe that that coin was shot through plastic.
You've mastered the technique whereas I still have trouble getting the whole coin in focus. The depth of field is so shallow that when I get the reflection right, ..some part of the coin is then out of focus. I'll keep trying.....
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Being a hard holder, PCGS is much easier to photograph through than ICCS. The ICCS plastic is more reflective, plus not a plane surface like a hard holder, so you get more light scatter from the surface reflections.
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