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New Member
 United States
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oh my florin: Thank you! Could you explain more about "no sign of genuine wear on rim"? I am not quite knowledgeable on that..
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I agree with enworb that those bumps on the 1932 are cause for suspicion.
I think what oh my florin is saying is that the rims look much less worn than you'd expect for such circulated coins.
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Valued Member
Australia
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All is not lost; in your initial post you state you collect Chinese coins. You may have, by chance, collected two more ;)
That said, I can't comment on their authenticity.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
674 Posts |
That would be my 'two bobs' worth.!!  |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I dont think the coins are real most notably because of their worn condition but if you have a look at the rims they are perfect showing no signs of genuine wear. Rwichy, before you throw away these coins. I've just checked a few of my worn KGV florins (from different sources) and many of them look the same as yours. In fact all of them had the same looking rims. So I am prepared to call your coins as genuine |
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Having has a second look I would also be leaning towards genuine.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1006 Posts |
Hey sorry for the long reply been away since friday. what I mean by no genuine wear on the rims is tthat generally a coin which is heavily worn like these ones nearly always have dents or nicks on the rims which are easily visible but yours show abosolutely no signs of this and from what I have heard of fake coins is that they arnt trying to imitate the higher grade coins which you can easily see parts of the design missing (which is only attributed to being a fake) but instead they are making these coins but then making them seem as if they have been worn (resulting in a higher chance of passing them on).
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New Member
United States
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MobOfRoos, enworb, oh my florin
Thank you for your comments! I will keep the coins and probably send them to third party grading later.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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These coins have been been out of circulation for a long time, you would not expect otherwise. Toning has developed over the whole of the coins evenly since then.
I would think that if you did a comparative ring tone test, you should find them 'spot on'.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
750 Posts |
G'day Rwichy, I hope you can understand the 'caution' that the other members are expressing here as the 1932 would have to be one of the most copied coins in the influx of copy coins coming from China. Below are some pics I grabbed from a chinese site not that long ago .... How would you like your florin ..... lustred or toned. (Probably won't be long until they have them complete with verdigris).   |
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New Member
United States
20 Posts |
Hi sel_69l, thank you for your suggestion!
Other than the 1932 and 1933 coins, I also have a 1910 Florin. All of these coins are obtained from different sources during my collection. I tried the ring tone test and they are sound the same to me. I personally believe that they are made of same metal.
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
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For a comparative ring tone test, you can compare it with ANY .925 silver florin from Great Britain or the British Commonwealth.
Just make sure the known genuine coin is .925 sterling silver, not .500 fine. They have a higher pitched tone.
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New Member
United States
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The Unicorn, I totally agree with you about the existing of fake coins from China. In fact, during years of Chinese coin collection, I have seen numerous fake coins. Some of them are quite difficult to tell. The coins in the pictures you attached here (much appreciate for that!) are fairly easy to judge since they have sandy surface, bold characters and unnatural toning, not the case of the coins I show. As enworb said, the little bumps on the rim is suspicious, which is also what I am doubting about the coins. I do not know if these are the "higher-end" fake coins or genuine...
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Only the 1932 would be economical to send to a TPG. If that came back genuine I would be happy assuming the 1933 is also. |
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