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Valued Member
United States
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OldSkool - what features help you recognize the fake?
Did we miss anything that maybe you're looking at ?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I tried matching it to all known varieties and it didn't match any. Then I matched it to an image of the jinghuashei version and it matched exactly. It's a really good counterfeit. In the past it would have fooled me. In fact without matching the photos I might have bought it. The only thing odd is that the 8s on these coins have varying thickness (I'm sure there's a term for it), but on this, it's the same all the way around.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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As OldSkool says it is a fake and there are several things that identify it as such. First are the denticals on the obv fro 7 to 12 o'clock. The denticals on the die went all the way out to the edge of the die. As a general rule you never see the out side nd of the denticals unless the die is misaligned or the coin is off.center. Star 6 points noticeable right of the coronet point. That is only true on the obv of N-7 and this is not N-7. On the reverse there is a large center dot. The only variety with a large center dot is the rev of N-2 and this is NOT N-2. So we have an obv and a rev that do not exist, bad denticals on the obv, and then there is the edge. These coins were struck without a collar and the edges of the coins are rounded, never flat like this coin is.
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New Member
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Hi guys I really appreciate your help on this. I went and checked that site that OldSkool mentioned and it sure looks like the 1818 on there except someone has toned this coin. Also the I in Liberty has a little extra to the top right of the coin and that matches the coin on the (jinghuashei coins) site. I'm glad I checked before I listed this on ebay. I called the coin shop and he said to bring it back in Monday. Another thing about the coin it looked a little on the grainy side under a loop so I wasn't feeling good about it being real. Again thanks a lot this is a very nice site I'm glad I found it. Ken |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Conder- If stars 1-5 were shifted a bit clockwise, it would almost pass for an N-6 on the obverse. Scary.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hi Ken. I wonder how your coin shop got this coin and how they didn't recognize it as a fake. Personally, I'd be a bit wary of the rest of their coins.
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Pillar of the Community
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Good thing you found out it was fake before listing it on the bay
What's your seller name btw?
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Pillar of the Community
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I tried matching it to all known varieties and it didn't match any. Thanks OldSkoolMadSkilz - I learned something and that's why I love this forum. Before I posted I also tried matching to the known varieties and while a couple of them were almost right I couldn't make an exact match. I didn't have the confidence to say that because varieties can be tricky. Member ANA and EAC "You got to lose to know how to win". Dream On by Aerosmith |
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Pillar of the Community
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Is this forum awesome or what? The knowledge here will preserve this hobby!!!
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Pillar of the Community
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I am curious about the sales price for this coin. A real coin in this kind of grade would be VERY pricey!!
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hello Fisher904 May I invite you over to the World Coin section of this forum where forum members Swamperbob and ColonialJohn have been teaching an ongoing college level class in Counterfeit Detection. I was doing yard work all day and only saw this post just now but as Condor101 already posted, the edge was a dead giveaway for the fake. (Swamperbob's mantra ... always look at the third side, the edge) I would also be curious about the price the "coin shop" charged, it could be an indication that they knew it was fake so made it "too good a deal to pass up". |
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The price was 125.00 only because the color was a little off. I did get my money back with no problem. This is the 1st time that I know of that one of these got by me. Some are pretty good. Thanks again for all your help.
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Bedrock of the Community
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although the comments on this site are awesome, this is scary to think of how good some of the fakes can be.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I think a real coin in this condition would be $300 plus.
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