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Needed Help For An Issue On Ebay Purchase

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 Posted 04/10/2013  3:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list
That's correct. For shipping coins through Canada Post anyway. Other carriers have different rules but you need to check the fine print.
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 Posted 04/10/2013  4:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list
I see. Thank you very much for the information about that. It is really helpful to know, and in fact a must know.
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 Posted 04/11/2013  12:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rockdaddy to your friends list
There is nothing wrong with using PayPal shipping labels from canadapost. IMO
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 Posted 04/11/2013  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list

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There is nothing wrong with using PayPal shipping labels from canadapost.

The two newest offerings of these PayPal / Canada Post / USPS shipping labels provide very reasonable cost on shipping from Canada to United States...

However, they do not provide "tracking" or an option for "signature required on delivery"...

If shipment happens to go missing in transit (or buyer states that he did not receive) the result is that you are on the hook for refunding buyers purchase.

cameron93

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 Posted 04/12/2013  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rockdaddy to your friends list
What do you mean they don't offer tracking?
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 Posted 04/12/2013  9:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list
I do get tracking + Fully insured + Signature req via Paypal Expedited Shipping
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 Posted 04/13/2013  02:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add poboxw to your friends list
The insuring no more than $500 sounds dubious to me. Max insurance you can purchase with Canada Post is $1000 and they will/should cover every penny (rounded to the nearest nickel :) ) that the seller paid insurance for. I've had insurance claims for $700+ with Canada Post myself, shipping coins, that came through without any problems.

The thing is with Canada Post insurance claims, the seller has to refund the buyer FIRST and proof to Canada Post that they've refunded before Canada Post cut the seller a check. I've gone through this and can confirm, so keep this in mind when dealing with whatever the seller offers.




Canada Post labels through PayPal DO offer signature as an option provided you select the correct service. i.e. Expedited and Xpresspost within Canada have the option of signature for an extra $1.50 while regular parcel don't. If shipping south of the border and internationally, that's when PayPal skips out on the signature option even with services that will include it if purchased at the post office.

And the PayPal shipping discount for Canada Post don't amount to be more than what signing up for Venture One (a Canada Post small business shipping account) would offer.
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 Posted 04/13/2013  1:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list

Regarding my previous post:


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The two newest offerings of these PayPal / Canada Post / USPS shipping labels provide very reasonable cost on shipping from Canada to United States...

However, they do not provide "tracking" or an option for "signature required on delivery"...

If shipment happens to go missing in transit (or buyer states that he did not receive) the result is that you are on the hook for refunding buyers purchase.

To be more specific... PayPal shipping labels has a couple of bargain priced options which DO NOT provide "tracking" and do not provide an option for "signature required on delivery"... these services (Light Packet USA and USA Air Small Packets) can be 50% to 75% less cost than other services which do offer tracking (Xpresspost, Expedited, Tracked Packets USA).

When you print out the labels of cheaper options they have a bar code and a series of numbers that look very similar to tracking codes but ARE NOT tracking codes...

It is extremely important in order to be covered by PayPal insurance for items of higher value that shipping be done using a method which does provide tracking and signature on delivery.

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 Posted 04/13/2013  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_games to your friends list

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The insuring no more than $500 sounds dubious to me. Max insurance you can purchase with Canada Post is $1000 and they will/should cover every penny (rounded to the nearest nickel :) ) that the seller paid insurance for. I've had insurance claims for $700+ with Canada Post myself, shipping coins, that came through without any problems.


I'm pretty sure the maximum insurance offered is $5,000 by Canada Post. Not sure if that includes coins, but I insured a package for over $3500 and the clerk said it's covered as long as it's worth what I'm insuring it for.
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 Posted 04/13/2013  1:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list


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20.4 Exclusions and Restrictions on Certain Items

b) The maximum amount payable by Canada Post is:

$500 for shipments containing COINS, jewellery, manufactured and non-manufactured precious stones and metals, cancelled or uncancelled postage stamps...


cameron93

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 Posted 04/18/2013  6:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adorus to your friends list
Thanks everyone for your help. Here is the message \i received from paypal:

After carefully reviewing your case, we've determined that you'll be
eligible for a refund (including handling and shipping) once you've
returned the merchandise to the seller.

Once you have returned the merchandise, you will be covered under PayPal
Buyer Protection and eligible to receive a full refund.

Now the case is closed, and everything done
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 Posted 04/18/2013  6:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rp14 to your friends list
Glad it worked out for you
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 Posted 04/18/2013  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinsplus to your friends list
Now, you just have to make sure that the seller says he received the returned merchandise. Then, only until the seller confirms receipt, that PayPal refunds.
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 Posted 04/18/2013  11:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arianzo to your friends list
And what's the humor of the seller?
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 Posted 04/18/2013  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tocoins to your friends list

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However, they do not provide "tracking" or an option for "signature required on delivery"...


I think you have to pick expedited service to make the tracking work. If you don't, the process will still generate a tracking number, but it will provide no tracking information. This really screwed me up recently. A buyer who purchased a watch off me bombarded me with inquiries and opened a case on the purchase only days after the purchase, all because of this. The process was not implemented bug-free.

If you see the shipping label has no bar-code, it's not trackable. Post office cannot scan them to register the package in the system. One way to deal with this is by bringing the lower portion of the label and ask them to stamp it at the time you drop off a package. It gets time stamped and it will serve as a 'proof of post' in case of a dispute.
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