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Junk Bin Silver Finds

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 Posted 10/31/2013  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
Here is a tiny find:
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Ottoman Empire, 10 para, AH1293, regnal year 26 (1900)

I thought it was an old copper coin - but no! It is a .100 fine piece of worn, tarnished silver. The ASW: 0.0064!

Found in the 18/$1 bin... its melt value, not accounting for wear, is just 14 cents!!
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 Posted 11/01/2013  01:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broseph to your friends list
Anyone have a list of foreign silver dates to look for?
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 Posted 11/03/2013  4:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
In general... before World War 2.

My best advice is to mix up some world silver with world copper-nickel, and practice finding "that silver look". Silver coins are brighter gray, and they tone in a much greater range of colours (burnished, lightly toasted yellow, a slight greenish tinge for low-purity silver, that give-away look where the devices are gray and the fields are black, etc.). Look through this thread for pictures of average silver coins!

But if you want a real list to print out and surreptitiously check next time you're hunting for world coins:
- Canada: 1967 and earlier, and some non-magnetic issues of 1968
- USA: 1964 and earlier, of course
- Switzerland: 1967 and earlier
- France: 5 francs, 1969 and earlier. France had plenty of occupation and invasion, so it's difficult to keep track of everything - I think it's worth buying all French coins from before World War I, except the ubiquitous slick 5/10 centimes of Napoleon III. Before World War I, everything from at least 50 centimes and up was silver.
- Germany: 5 marks, 1974 and earlier. Note that 5 marks is convertible to the Euro, and is worth about $3.50 right now, so it might be worth it to just buy all mark coins you find.
- Austria: 5 schillings, 1968 and earlier (scarce 1968 copper-nickel issues exist, which are also worth buying). 10 schillings, 1973 and earlier. Again, Austrian schillings will always be convertible to the Euro, and 10 schillings is about $1. For higher schilling denominations... again, buy them all. If they're not white like silver, they are base-metal circulating coins, but they will still be worth 10 schillings to the dollar. (I will gladly trade these for Canadian junk silver.)
- Greece: 20 drachmai (looks like "APAXMAI") and higher. It must have a king's head on it - the Greek republic issued no circulating silver.
- Mexico: Mexico had many steps of debasement, with the peso falling from a silver-dollar type coin: .903, .800, .720, .500, .300, .100, and finally base-metal. The cut-off for the peso is 1967 and earlier... 50 centavos is 1951 and earlier... higher denominations are all across the map, but if you find anything above 1 peso from before 1971 in a junk bin, buy it! The last hold-out of silver in Mexico was 100 pesos, in 1979 and earlier.
- Mexican new pesos: High-value bi-metallic coins (N$10 and up) have .925 silver centers, to motivate Mexicans into giving up their old pesos. Buy these from 1995 and before - many, many coin dealers don't even know about this, so ask to see all new peso coins.
- UK: 1946 and earlier is .500 silver - 1918 and earlier is .925 silver. The UK is nice, because there are no tricky copper-nickel coins from before this cut-off date to confuse you. For British colonies, the rule of thumb is: during and before World War II is silver.
- Australia: All pre-decimal (pence, shillings, pounds) coins are silver. 50-cent coins that are round are silver.
- Spain: 100 pesetas with Francisco Franco are about half an ounce of silver.
- Sweden: Smaller denominations were turned to base metal before large denominations. 1, 2, and 5 krona coins from 1967 and earlier are silver (1968 has silver and base-metal issues, but the odds are good for silver), and fractional denominations from 10 to 50 ore from 1961 and earlier are silver. There was a circulating (?) commemorative of 10 kronor in 1972 that was large and silver, which can be easily distinguished from nickel-sized base metal 10 kronor coins (1991-date). Once again, even these base metal 10 kronor coins have a face value of about $2.
- Thailand: Thai coins are hard to tell apart for the uninitiated, but if it has a king, and the king is not wearing glasses, then it is either silver, or one of the numerous Thai commemoratives.
- Netherlands: 1 and 2.5 gulden, 1966 and earlier (1967 coins are predominantly nickel, so check with a magnet). All 1/2 gulden (50 cents) coins are silver, as the denomination proved unpopular and was last minted in 1930. 10 and 25 cents are silver from 1945 and earlier - except for the large, black zinc German occupation issues that don't bear the head of Queen Wilhelmina. Zinc is very reactive, so if you find any German-occupation zinc coins that have not black, they are usually worth buying.
- Japan: These are tough to tell apart, usually. However, if any have the English text "[number] SEN", they are worth buying, even if not silver (it's like American coins - 1 sen is a large cent, 5 sen is copper-nickel). 10 sen and up with this English text will be silver. For modern issues... two 100 yen types are silver. One says 100 YEN and has a phoenix, the later one has a large 100 flanked by many horizontal lines - the latter should be in this thread somewhere. 1000 yen and above is always worth buying if you're lucky enough to find any (100 yen = 1 dollar).
- India: 10 rupee coins with the dates (1869 - 1949) [Gandhi birth centennial] and 1970 will be silver. For British India - remember what I said about "up 'til the end of World War II".

That's all I can think of right now. Most (not all) Canadian coin dealers have a good knowledge of world coins, but some American collectors appear to only be concerned with American coins! I can't believe it, but apparently it's true. Those are the dealers you target, of course.
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 Posted 11/04/2013  09:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Broseph to your friends list
Thanks! I will be printing this and trying my luck sometime soon :)

My dealer is not concerned with foreign much. He is a good buddy of mine and he would be happy for me if I found bonuses in his 25 cent bin :D
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 Posted 11/10/2013  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
From the Edmonton Coin Show:
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20 cents each:
Sweden, 25 öre, 1958, 0.0298 ASW
UK, 3 pence, 1918, 0.0420 ASW
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12/$1 bin:
Sweden, 10 öre (hey... what are the odds?), 1962, 0.0185 ASW

Total: 0.0903 ASW for 48.3 cents

BONUS: Billon silver Swiss 10 rappen coin found in the "free with admission" bin at the front:
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 Posted 11/12/2013  12:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add harrison2 to your friends list
Man! you guys are doing good! I am actually looking for some of these coins...Turkey, Ottoman Empire, 10 para, AH1293, regnal year 26 (1900) comes to mind.
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 Posted 11/12/2013  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CGCoins to your friends list
No Pic of it yet, Lighting was not cooperating.
But Paid 15.10 for this:
1890(Year 23) Japan 1 Yen in AU with Luster.

Yay for random Pawn Shops!
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 Posted 11/12/2013  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stud722 to your friends list
Nice list of what to look for!
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 Posted 11/15/2013  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilboleslie to your friends list
Estate sale today, 1940 Mexico Peso, for a dollar... .3856 ounces of silver... fun.
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 Posted 11/15/2013  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilboleslie to your friends list
Estate sale today, 1940 Mexico Peso, for a dollar... .3856 ounces of silver... fun.
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 Posted 11/16/2013  03:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilboleslie to your friends list
Also, 1944 1/4 rupee from India, and two 1950 10 Ore Sweden... which are less than .02 of an ounce. But, hey, it was fun finding any silver at all.
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 Posted 11/16/2013  4:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
I think most British Indian coins are worth buying at melt.

And even the most negligible coins (like that tiny .100 fine 10 para coin) have some kind of silver value to them - if the per-unit price is low enough, even those .500 threepences are worth it. Of course, I buy many, many non-silver world coins as well... and I've actually found my best deals when it comes to base-metal (like a West German coin from the 50s in almost flawless condition, catalog value is $65!).
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 Posted 11/20/2013  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
Today's silver!
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- Isles du Vent (Windward Islands, now a part of French Polynesia), 12 sols, 1731. This beats my George II 1745 LIMA shilling by 14 years! Can you believe it was in the 18/$1 bin?! ASW roughly 0.07 (unsure of purity)
- Mexican 2 reales!! This was a really exciting find, especially in the 18/$1 bin. ASW 0.1963
- Belgium, 1 franc, 1910. A badly dipped coin... 12/$1 bin. ASW 0.1342
- Netherlands, 10 cents, probably 1925. 18/$1 bin. ASW 0.0267

Total: 0.431 oz (!) for 25 cents
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 Posted 11/21/2013  12:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bilboleslie to your friends list
Very nicely done. Home run for the day. I've never found anything anywhere near that old (and silver)in a junk bin.
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 Posted 11/27/2013  10:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
2 French francs, a fairly old type (1887-A).
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From the $2 bin... ASW is 0.268.
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