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Help In Determing Value Of A MS-66 Coin

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 Posted 05/02/2013  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
Whatever you paid for it should serve as a good proxy.

I hope it's Red. If it's not Red, no matter how nice the field/strike are, I wouldn't value it higher than an MS-64.

I agree with SPP that in those grades, it's all about eye appeal, but to put a range on the value, I'd say Brown $100, Red-Brown $150-$200, Red anywhere from $300 - $1000.
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 Posted 05/02/2013  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
macdon....Could you post a clear pic of your great NGC MS66 1917 cent..?

Remember how the descriptions of those super high grade coins used to be described?
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 Posted 05/02/2013  11:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuh_85 to your friends list
NGC MS66 probably equals MS65 on the Canadian pricing charts. Maaayybbe only 64. Would need to see the coin. This is because NGC uses the full scale up to and including 70 while ICCS & CCCS don't. Canadian price lists are primarily based on ICCS grading standards. Personal opinion.
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 Posted 05/03/2013  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macdon to your friends list
macdon....Could you post a clear pic of your great NGC MS66 1917 cent..?

It is the coin that Noah refers to in his reply. Looks like I overpaid for it.
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 Posted 05/03/2013  09:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list
I don't know if you overpaid if you wanted it for your collection. They certainly aren't popular in that grade!

Someone paid $550 for a MS-65:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1917-ICCS-G...em43aec0277d
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 Posted 05/03/2013  09:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
What's the highest grade ICCS will assign to a Brown cent? 64?
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 Posted 05/03/2013  10:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
That is a fantastic colour for a toned cent.

I would want to call that "lustrous dark". The "browns" that I have don't allow you to see such detail and maybe for that reason,..browns would be considered a negative for a copper coin. Copper probably does best as it approaches the brilliance and full red grading as seen by demand and pricing..but...

I rarely "if ever" have seen such colour in a large cent. It almost belongs in it's own category.

Beautiful piece ..!!
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 Posted 05/03/2013  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list
As a reference point I had an NGC MS66 Red cent cross graded by ICCS around a month or two ago and it came back MS65.
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 Posted 05/03/2013  11:11 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
The highest I have seen for a brown cent by ICCS is MS-64, with the comment "Lustrous Brown".
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 Posted 05/03/2013  11:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jg86 to your friends list
I'd be interested in what this would cross-grade with ICCS. It's a very nice coin and has eye appeal, but the brown-ness is what will bring it down. I suspect this could also be MS-64 "Lustrous Brown".

SPP - If you saw that brown cent sell, how did the price compare to, say, a 63 Brown or a 64 Red?
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 Posted 05/03/2013  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cameron93 to your friends list
Have to agree with DEVLEC that the colour of this coin gives it an especially attractive "eye-appeal"...

But as to grade there's no way this coins is MS-66... it is in my opinion an execeptionally strong MS-64+... possibly MS65 depending on the grader...

However... who really knows anymore... given noahs 2nd example:


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Someone paid $550 for a MS-65:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1917-ICCS-G...em43aec0277d


Seriously... is there anybody who thinks this coin should receive an MS-65... ICCS is out to lunch here... looks no better to me than your garden variety MS-60...

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 Posted 05/03/2013  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SHAFTA9a to your friends list
I don't know much about grading, but if that's MS-65 I'll eat my hat.

The best I would say on that is, MS-63, IMO...maybe?
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 Posted 05/03/2013  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
The listing for coin <em43aeco277d> shows that it has been removed..? Never got to see it...
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 Posted 05/03/2013  6:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list
@cameron93,
I noticed that, but am hoping it is just the pictures and some poor person didn't pay that much for a coin that seems to have wear.
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 Posted 05/03/2013  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add macdon to your friends list
Thanks to all for input.
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