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Well, if we're placing our wagers, I still think the obverse and reverse look too much like B-1 BB-21 for it to be a new variety. Looking forward to any new info, though!
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Edge lettering looks good!
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You take good pics, sir, and going over them, I'm hard pressed to see anything amiss but that absent neck truncation loop and the eerily erased berry. Got a weight?
Edited by philadelphian
06/07/2013 11:48 pm
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i'd say genuine.possibly worked on but genuine
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You take good pics, sir, and going over them, I'm hard pressed to see anything amiss but that absent neck truncation loop and the eerily erased berry. Got a weight? Weight and Diameter are within range. Quote:
i'd say genuine.possibly worked on but genuine There has been enough input on this forum on another that it is clear it's an altered genuine coin. |
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Genuine altered is general consensus.
Paraphrasing:
"The disruption between the D of UNITED and the first S of STATES lends one to think maybe a pin had been soldered across the back over the eagle's breast through the region of the missing berry to the right edge by the I of AMERICA."
While the exact details may never be known. It is definitely genuine altered. The center obverse shows signs of work as well as the smoothing pointed out above on the reverse.
If anyone wants to see other areas of the coin up close for educational purposes, let me know and I'll try to post them. Thank you for your comments and observations.
Edited by Rayman311
06/08/2013 11:53 am
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Oh boy, I opened a can of worms.
Rayman311, please keep us informed.
I still like the looks of this coin/object/whatever.
I want to learn as much as I can about them [Flowing Hair Dollars].
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A few additional photos because I'm bored and it's raining here.  Sharing a few areas of note if anyone is still interested. Some work done around the throat area. Note the straight lines.  More around the wing near the "missing" berry.  Probable repair around the D & ST.   Probable repair around I & CA.  Work around the B & E. Not sure about the gold dots are in BER.  Hope some find this useful. |
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Rayman, I don't have your knowledge on these at all. So it is thought that there was a pin attached, what happened around the throat area? That area is confusing to me on what has been done there.
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The observe would have faced out. The area around the throat was probably some sort of repair. Maybe it was an extra point to secure the coin due to size and weight that caused damage on the obverse? It could be unrelated too. The reverse may have looked similar to the one below.  |
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To make matters a little more interesting some FH Dollars also had a "Silver Plug" inserted in the center. They are rare and command a premium. The alteration is right around where a "silver plug" would be located. This does not appear to have one but it did make my eyes do a double-take. I imagined one for several seconds. Here is an interesting article on Early Dollars that provides some insight into why some of these coins may have a "silver plug" and that they may have been first discovered by "coin doctors", who were likely reluctant to come forward with the discovery due to their craft. http://www.nationalsilverdollarroun....org/?p=1439Here are a few photos of the obverse and reverse comparing to a known "silver plug" coin.   |
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Good article Rayman. Got me thinking if mine could be plugged. It isn't. At any rate, you got yourself a nice coin and a keeper IMHO.
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