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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It does not look improperly cleaned in the images. Perhaps dipped but not over-dipped IMHO. Looks like a MS64 easy.
P.S. Pics through a flip can be tough to interpret.
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Pillar of the Community
Israel
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Doesn't look cleaned to me. It looks real nice, and might even go MS65 if indeed graded undetailed.
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Valued Member
United States
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The strike and luster look terrific. Based on the first picture, it has an MS65 look. However, the last obverse picture gives the appearance of a scratch below the eye, some marks on the neck and eagle, which could lower it down to MS63.
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Valued Member
United States
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The strike and luster look terrific. Based on the first picture, it has an MS65 look. However, the last obverse picture gives the appearance of a scratch below the eye, some marks on the neck and eagle, which could lower it down to MS63.
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Bedrock of the Community
Canada
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I don't see how it could be cleaned... MS-64 is my opinion.
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Valued Member
 United States
195 Posts |
Wow! Glad to hear a lot say it might be uncleaned. I have a feeling it's MS64 with a very real chance at 65, personally. But, to answer Noah, the reason I said it was cleaned is shown in the last obverse photo. On the left side, between "IN GOD" and the "L I" in liberty, there are a few small parallel lines, which I'm assuming are scratches of some sort, indicating a cleaning. I know for a fact that I cannot differentiate between scratches and die polishings. And, I didn't think die polishings are present on Peace dollars very often, if ever. If you think it's uncleaned, what are those marks? Do they make it AU58? Or, maybe rough handling with cotton gloves? Again, those marks are VERY difficult to find. They only come out at one tiny angle. Anywhere else and they are gone.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
3167 Posts |
Can't see anything in the pictures, but they are probably hairline scratches that may hold it back from a 65, but really can't tell from the pictures.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
972 Posts |
I also don't think it's been cleaned. Maybe dipped at sometime. A couple of fine hairlines on the obverse other than that it's a beauty. MS64
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Valued Member
United States
108 Posts |
derekjacoby,
I'll preface this by apologizing for the misinterpretation my terse reply engendered. I did not intend to razz or harrangue you. I weighed in on the pics with what I felt, and am happy to stand corrected by any folks with a keener/sharper eye than mine. :)
I recognize I prolly used the wrong terminology; I meant to communicate the idea of 'dipped' when I said 'cleaned', and definitely did *not* mean to suggest/imply it had been polished in any way shape or form.
I still think it is a beauty coin. I think it exhibits some fine luster, and I would be tickled to have this one. Are you going to keep it? Methinks you are looking to nab a raw and slab her with the goal of netting an MS65?
Thanks, Jay
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Very nice coin. I would agree with those saying MS64.
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Moderator
 United States
23522 Posts |
Those lines are an incidental contact with some relatively-soft surface; a new dining room table cloth is capable of creating them on a silver coin.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3283 Posts |
Nice original MS coin, MS64 IMO. My first thought was that the hairlines shown in picture 4 from the top were from die polishing, because they look outward not inward in the pic. I'd be excited about the coin too 
Edited by upstate 06/04/2013 8:28 pm
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Valued Member
 United States
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Jay, Please don't worry about it. No offense at all was taken. I may indeed submit it to try to get an MS65, but normally I'm off on those. I have only submitted to TPG's twice and have a really bad track record so far. I have to say, though, I own one Morgan 65 and one Peace 65, and then a bunch lower. The surface of this coin seems to be more like the 65's than the lesser ones. There seems to be a particular texture that is necessary and this one has it. It also, though, might have too many dings and scratches! If I send it in, I'll let you guys know.
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