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Suspects Wanted For Writing Bad Checks

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 Posted 06/09/2013  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noahs-numismatics to your friends list
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 Posted 06/09/2013  11:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
its a little hard for a B&M store to say you go ahead and pay and then come back in a week and pick up what you payed for. It would be like going into Walmart and buying groceries with a check and them bagging them up but telling you that you need to come back to get your food. I really do not know of a good way except just not accept checks all together
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 Posted 06/10/2013  11:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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I really do not know of a good way except just not accept checks all together
I would never accept checks if I had a coin shop or any retail business.

If you have a checking account, it either came with a debit card or you can easily get one. Use it and everyone is happy.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ron_CA to your friends list
Exactly. If you actually have money in your checking account, go get it and we can deal.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bullion-investor13 to your friends list
i don't even know anywhere in Canada that accepts cheques
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 Posted 06/11/2013  2:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
A couple weeks back I saw someone break out their check book at the grocery store.

It felt like I had been caught in a time warp.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  2:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jgfindring to your friends list
I take checks in my shop, about $25000.00 worth a year, roughly 8% of my business. Or about 250 checks per year. I am definitely a niche market (pond supplies) and a discretionary spending destination, but in 7 1/2 years in business I've had two returned checks, one made good immediately, the other never heard from again. I much prefer checks to debit/crdeit cards due to the outrageous fees I have to pay to accept them, versus no fees for checks. I even offer a bonus for paying by check or cash.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  10:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list
I stopped in a coin shop in SW New York and pawed through the inventory, eventually piling up about $150 in coins. When I pulled out the plastic, the owner informed me that he didn't take credit cards, but when I asked him where I could obtain that much cash in his fine city he relented and took my check (which was good, of course). I thought it odd that he limited his sales to cash only.

<-- I must have an honest face ...
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 Posted 06/11/2013  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismaniac to your friends list
I wonder if the fact that he has some numismatic knowledge had anything to do with the dealers trusting him a little bit more. I also wonder if he paid a little more for some of the items than the dealers thought they would get ? I can't see any reason someone would take a check from someone they didn't know and let them walk out with something as liquid as collector coins or bullion. No doubt they will both be in prison soon and I hope they get the book thrown at them. Anyone know if losses like that are covered by any types of insurance?
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 Posted 06/13/2013  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DaytR to your friends list
If these two get caught how much time are they possibly facing in the slammer for writing bad checks ?
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 Posted 07/02/2013  08:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
The suspects pictured above have been arrested in Northern California for theft by check and are awaiting extradition to Arizona for writing bad checks to coin dealers. The subjects wrote bad checks to dealers in Arizona, Oregon and California.

The suspects entered a coin shop in northern California and attempted to purchase coins. The owner recognized the suspects from a recent alert sent out by the Numismatic Crime Information Center and called police. The suspects left prior to police arriving but were later apprehended at a California checkpoint.
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 Posted 07/02/2013  09:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
These criminals are not collectors. The use bad checks and coins to generate a cash flow.
A dealer took cash and a check for a thirty dollar balance last month telling me, "I've had more
problems with dealers's checks than a customer's check."

Still a sad tale.

But they were caught? GREAT DAY!
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 Posted 07/02/2013  10:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Unless the dealer knows me well, they hold the coins until the checks clear the bank. Looks like the dealers that got burned didn't use common sense. Still the scum bags need to get caught and do some time with Bubba.
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 Posted 07/02/2013  10:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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The suspects pictured above have been arrested in Northern California...


Throw the book at them. Preferably a very heavy one.
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 Posted 07/31/2013  02:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Gyrene7483 to your friends list

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I thought it odd that he limited his sales to cash only.
I'm not saying he does this but, many people who only accept cash for their sales usually are under reporting their sales to either the state tax board, the IRS or both. Cash transactions can be easily undocumented whereas a customer paying by check, debit or credit card leaves a paper trail.

Many of the dealers I have dealt with over the years have had more bad checks from other dealers than retail customers.

I leave my check book at home when I go to a coin show and take only enough cash that my budget will allow to keep from getting carried away and overspending although most of the dealers I buy from allow me to buy coins on lay-a-way which makes it easier to buy the higher priced coins over a short term period.

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