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1876 CC Trade Dollar- Is Mine Real Or Counterfeit?

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 Posted 06/10/2013  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list
The only major difference I see is in the mintmark.
I assume that there are a few possible mintmark positions, but I'm not an expert.

I'd definitely send this one for grading, unless someone here could clearly rule it out as fake.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  08:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oih82w8 to your friends list
with supdog, the mintmark is what jumps out at me. I also agree with having any Trade dollar Third Party graded for authenticity, ANACS would be the least expensive (no clubs to join).
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06/10/2013 08:28 am
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 Posted 06/10/2013  09:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grancap74 to your friends list
Doberman, Looking more closely at the bottom rim on the Obverse, that's looks quite odd to me. If I compare yours to one of ours, or BH there is an obvious difference to me now that I didn't notice before. The glaring one is the MM which others here have stated. Try to get better pics if you are able to.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  09:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dave H to your friends list
The denicles on the obverse are inconsistent, and the rim looks funky, too. Also, the arm holding the banner doesn't look quite right... IMHO, I believe it is a counterfeit...
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 Posted 06/10/2013  12:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
the rim is what caught my eye at first glance. I am pretty sure this one is a counterfeit. You pretty much have to approach any Trade dollar as it being counterfeit and then prove its real
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 Posted 06/10/2013  3:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list
I think it's a cast counterfeit. Recalling similar posts and Steve Caruso's comments, several things make me think this:

  • thickening of various devices (wheat heads, for example)

  • flattening of the devices (stars and branch on obverse)

  • the denticles are grainy and shortened

  • ragged line around rim in some places

  • some areas of porosity which can be a casting artifact (example-- left of date)

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06/10/2013 4:05 pm
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 Posted 06/10/2013  4:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add supgog to your friends list
Not sure if this is enough to rule it out as a fake, but I've marked a few of the details that looks different to me:



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 Posted 06/10/2013  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
I don't have a good feeling about this one. What caught my eye first was the face which looked a little off. The relief of the eagle looks a little too low and there is detail missing in the wing, leg, and neck feathers. The rim and denticles on the reverse don't look right.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  8:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
The things that stood out to me when I looked at it this morning and compared it to photograde pictures, is Liberty looks about 25 pounds heavy and the lack of detail in the olive branch leaves compared to the rest of the coin. I don't have a warm and fuzzy about this one...
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06/10/2013 8:07 pm
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 Posted 06/10/2013  9:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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I don't have a warm and fuzzy about this one...


Agreed. It's too flat.
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 Posted 06/10/2013  10:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jack jeckel to your friends list
The only thing that jumped out to me was the mintmark and the porosity left of the date.
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 Posted 06/11/2013  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SteveCaruso to your friends list
The denticles on the reverse, alone, disqualify it as genuine. They're too short and improperly spaced.
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 Posted 06/12/2013  01:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judd1552 to your friends list
Sorry. Bogus.
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 Posted 06/12/2013  11:23 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
At any rate that must have been a really nice pickle jar that he wasn't willing to part with lol.
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 Posted 06/13/2013  11:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DobermanOwner to your friends list
Thanks everyone! Too bad it didn't turn out to be real... Oh well.
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