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Who Has Had A Bad Experience With Jandm Coins?

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 Posted 06/12/2013  07:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add glenzy1 to your friends list
zxcccxz, I've made many purchases from J & M and found their shipping brutally SLOW. Prices are fairly high, but that usually is standard with brick & mortar stores. I've only purchase I.C.C.S. graded coins from them, so I can't comment on their raw coins.
Lately my favourite commercial numismatic store to purchase from has been Canadian, Coin and Currency.com.
Amazing website, finest I've ever had to navigate through. Easy to use and checkout is a breeze. Shipping is super fast and their selection of coins are second to none!! (way to go Mr. Bromberg!)

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 Posted 06/12/2013  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TomSwift to your friends list
The last time I went to their shop in Vancouver, they took over 20 minutes to get some coins for me in the back and acted as though it was an imposition and in the way of their buying gold. You have to be buzzed in and out of their shop and no cell phones are allowed. Not exactly a friendly place. On the plus, they have free parking.

To be fair, the last time I ordered from them online, I got the unmodified $1 and $2 rolls for regular retail just before the price took off. They could have easily have said they were out of stock but I got the correct ones, which was pretty good.
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 Posted 06/12/2013  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Barrie to your friends list

I've never had problems with them... but I agree they are slow at shipping most times.
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 Posted 06/12/2013  7:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petersun to your friends list
What I do is that I walk into the store and grade the coins myself.
Yes, some of their MS 63 are disputable. They MS 63s I bought from them were clearly uncirculated but had enough bag marks to be considered MS 60.
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 Posted 06/12/2013  7:40 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
You know, the title of this thread is just wrong - it just draws out the venom... Why not ask everyone who has had a good experience with J&M?

Joe Iorio runs a pretty big business, travels to a lot of coin shows and while he does not haggle much, he is one of the nicest coin dealers out there, once you get to know him. At a coin show, he pays the BEST price for junk silver, other dealers go to Joe with their silver. Running a big shop, with employees, there are bound to be mistakes and screw-ups - it is human nature. As for grading, well that is only an opinion, and we have gone down that road before...

For the record, Joe sold me a very rare test token set, probably the finest set I had ever seen - for a very fair price, below his newspaper ad price, at a coin show. This was before I started doing coin shows - he did not know me at the time. He was extremely polite and behind that quiet demeanour lies an intelligent numismatist.

Try going to a coin show, get to know the dealers - you might not be so quick to condemn someone....


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06/12/2013 7:42 pm
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 Posted 06/12/2013  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RoyalSilver to your friends list
never had a problem with J and M. Ordered from them before and even recommended them to others.
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 Posted 06/13/2013  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_games to your friends list

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You know, the title of this thread is just wrong - it just draws out the venom... Why not ask everyone who has had a good experience with J&M?


I would have been happy to call it that, but I have dealt with JandM about 10 times and the only time that was good was when they would have been accountable to feedback ratings on ebay.
I don't know Joe, but hiring people that make mistakes or don't care about the customers is bad business.


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To be fair, the last time I ordered from them online, I got the unmodified $1 and $2 rolls for regular retail just before the price took off. They could have easily have said they were out of stock but I got the correct ones, which was pretty good.


I did the same order. I had put in for 3 rolls of loonies and 3 rolls of toonies, but they cut it back to limit 1 of each, which was fine until I got a 2011 roll of loonies instead of 2012. They wouldn't cover for return shipping either...
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 Posted 06/13/2013  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
Joe is a great guy and his word is good. Oft times he is the market for stuff! @ Spp enjoy those rarities, they were once mine ! Yes Joe paid me what I thought was an incredible price for them!
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 Posted 06/13/2013  10:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add t_y to your friends list
Never had a problem with J&M. Never had a problem dealing with Joe.

In fact, I had problems with VERY few dealers, in person, on line or ebay. I can only recall 4 in years of collecting. I had more problems with restaurants than with coin dealers. I had problems with on line support people, banks, supermarket clerks (and patrons), movie goers and their cell phones, unguarded children and their guardians, internet trolls, Justin Bieber, weather forecast, my boss, etc. I call it "life"



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 Posted 06/13/2013  1:32 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
54dollarcoin, are you referring to these?

http://www.pcgs.com/SetRegistry/sho...aspx?sc=1758

(cut and paste the link into your browser, links directly from CCF spits you out at the PCGS home page)

Joe had them in ICCS holders. I cut them out, and had them placed in PCGS holders. Better protection in the long run, and I can show them in a PCGS showcase set, without them ever leaving my safety deposit box.
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 Posted 06/14/2013  12:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
I sold them to him raw , came from the estate of a high ranking mint employee who retired to Vancouver Island. They were sold to a dealer friend of mine and I bought from him.
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 Posted 06/14/2013  12:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Libertad to your friends list
There's a very good reason why places like that don't allow cellphones. It's because it relays information way too fast and gives robbers good cues for a fast stickup. They can tell you which customers leaving the place have lots of cash or are leaving with lots of gold. They should use this policy at banks, too. In Mexico they don't allow cellphones in banks, for example, because there have been way too many robberies and they deal with cash a lot in that country. The man is just protecting his business from sloppiness, which is something I respect.
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 Posted 06/14/2013  12:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coin_games to your friends list
After one day it doesn't seem that I can edit the topic....

Personally in a forum I like knowing the bad about a company. If it's the employees then they make the business look bad. I've had similar experiences at Gatewest Coins and Colonial Acres. Not to discourage potential buyers, just be cautious of bad employees. Good employees are hard to come by apparently. I've only met a few dealers and what I've seen most are passionate about the hobby.
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06/14/2013 12:56 am
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 Posted 06/14/2013  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TomSwift to your friends list
I should have added another positive comment about J&M. When I was there, waiting seemingly forever for the guy to come back from the vault, another employee chatted with me about life in China, etc. He was very nice and friendly and was apologetic for his co-workers slowness.
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 Posted 06/14/2013  11:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 54dollarcoin to your friends list
Anyone familiar with the coin trade knows that you cannot have exceptional knowledgeable employees................those people start their own coin business.
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