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Introducing The Coin Community Grading Service (Kinda)

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 Posted 07/18/2013  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tom Goodheart to your friends list

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You're free to use the idea as long as you don't claim it as your own.


Thanks, icyb!
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 Posted 07/18/2013  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add icollectyoubuy to your friends list
Yeah Steve I think either have them hosted somewhere on this site or once the grading is done have it nicely formatted on another site. I'm currently transforming my site georgescoins.com to do this, then if it works well I can get the name changed.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  3:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add icollectyoubuy to your friends list
If anybody has a better name then please post it here.
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 Posted 07/18/2013  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add icollectyoubuy to your friends list
Try this one and tell me what you think



Introducing-The-Coin-Community-Grading-Service-Kinda

Alt Link http://www.georgescoins.com/1909-vd...ln-cent.html
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 Posted 07/30/2013  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BluegrassRiver to your friends list
Cool idea but I just finished watching the Youtube video and was curious if you just finished mowing the grass?
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 Posted 07/31/2013  04:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Its a good idea but perhaps too easily taken advantage of. A couple of fake accounts and you'll find the grades will be creeping up.

You'd need to assign graders. And you'd need seperate graders for Brit, ancient, world coins etc. That could be tricky.
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 Posted 07/31/2013  10:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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A couple of fake accounts and you'll find the grades will be creeping up.
Hmm, which one am I going to trust... The VF grade from a Pillar or the AU grade from a New Member.

Besides, fake accounts do not last long here.
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 Posted 07/31/2013  11:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
I'm a Pillar. I wouldn't trust my VF grade as far I could throw it, but sometimes I find myself chiming in about a coin I find interesting.
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 Posted 07/31/2013  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I probably would not trust mine either.

At least as nothing more than an opinion.
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 Posted 07/31/2013  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
Maybe that's the whole point of the venture. There may be those who favor the collective opinion of a bunch of friendly, well-meaning amateurs over the professional verdict of a corporation.
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 Posted 07/31/2013  4:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list
Opinions of a coins grade are just that, an opinion. Coin grades are nothing more than an opinion to justify a $$$ value for a coin. You can take 10 TPG graded Morgan dollars all the same year and MM, cover up the TPG grade so no one knows all 10 are the same grade and MM, and line them up in a row from the best to worst, then have a couple of your friends do this, did you all have them lined up the same from best to worst. If the TPG graded them all the same i.e. MS65, are they all truly MS65?
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 Posted 07/31/2013  5:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeriousCERES to your friends list
1893S is perfectly right in relativizing the merits of grading as an undertaking, but that does not in anyway manage to undermine the power of the "corporate" graders (is that like 'corporate raiders'?) in the marketplace. After all, grading coins is what everyone does all the time, whether or not they're buying/selling. I think that CCF here could make a meaningful statement about the grading that this community could do, and its merit being just as strong as that of the big boys.

Because of what 1893S says, not in spite of it.

Put more clearly perhaps, my point is to say that there's all the more reason to do something like this, because our collective voice is just as worthy as that of the market-approved 'corporate' voices (NGC, PCGS, and to a lesser degree some others). Not everyone here will be happy with every attribution, but that's always the case.

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 Posted 07/31/2013  5:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Maybe that's the whole point of the venture. There may be those who favor the collective opinion of a bunch of friendly, well-meaning amateurs over the professional verdict of a corporation.
Yes.


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Opinions of a coins grade are just that, an opinion. Coin grades are nothing more than an opinion to justify a $$$ value for a coin.
Agreed.


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You can take 10 TPG graded Morgan dollars all the same year and MM, cover up the TPG grade so no one knows all 10 are the same grade and MM, and line them up in a row from the best to worst, then have a couple of your friends do this, did you all have them lined up the same from best to worst. If the TPG graded them all the same i.e. MS65, are they all truly MS65?
I issued a similar challenge here, which was further expanded here.
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 Posted 08/01/2013  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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because our collective voice is just as worthy as that of the market-approved 'corporate' voices

Except for one thing, the TPG graders are able to see the coin in hand and all we have are images. You can not grade high end coins accurately from images, and often problems on lesser coins are not visible either.
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 Posted 08/01/2013  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1893S to your friends list
I agree withConder101. I personally don't believe this to be a very good idea. (No disrespect to the OP) Even the grading section on the CCF could be and probably frequently is misinterpreted by some who ask for assistance.
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