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Ancient Silver Coin, Opinions Needed - Update Weight

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 Posted 07/22/2013  7:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list

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For some reason I have always wanted a Alexander the Great coin


Who wouldn't ! Well I suppose he still has his detractors in some places. In point of fact his memory lives on in parts of Afghanistan for being quite the ruthless conqueror. Alexander was responsible for a very bloody counter insurgency campaign which tied him up for several years and gained him little.
Most of the rest of us heard all about the 'Great' stuff and thus he gets legendary status.

The first coin I 'owned' was a slightly damaged Alexander drachm given to me by my brother in the summer of 1977. I was as pleased as punch with the gift !
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 Posted 07/22/2013  7:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list
It's a nice enough looking coin, albeit polished. If the price is good, go for it! You could put it back in a bezel and wear it without feeling too guilty.
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 Posted 07/22/2013  7:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Has anyone pointed out that his coin has a straight legged Zeus? Maybe a life time, early posthumous issue. WOW it might be worth a little more than you thought.
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 Posted 07/22/2013  8:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list
Do any of you know of a good online resource for attributing these ATG tets? As popular as they are, surely there are some good sites.

I'd like to get one or two of these myself but need to learn more about them first. (not counting the Seleukos I ATG-style tet I recently bought...)

I browsed wildwinds, vcoins, and a few other sites looking for coins with similar markings as this one. Haven't found one yet, although there are a few others with dolphins in the left field (that IS a dolphin, isn't it?). Haven't found the same monogram yet and hardly any of them have anything in exergue, like this one does.

What do the monograms mean? Does it denote the mint? What about the left field symbols? Exergue markings? Is there a rhyme or reason to all this?

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 Posted 07/22/2013  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pheroow to your friends list
Wow this is amazing!
I would definitely pay hundreds of bucks for it.
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 Posted 07/22/2013  10:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list

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Has anyone pointed out that his coin has a straight legged Zeus? Maybe a life time, early posthumous issue. WOW it might be worth a little more than you thought.


Interesting questions .. I too would like to know more details about this coin. I am guessing that the information
written with the coin is correct.

I have heard that term "life time" used before, I am guessing this refers to a coin made during the lifetime
of the ruler.

How can one tell what region/area this coin was made?

If anyone has more information .. or a link to a good site.

Also I still need to decide if I want to purchase this coin, by tomorrow. Would $150 be a good offer?
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 Posted 07/22/2013  10:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FVRIVS RVFVS to your friends list
It would be a 'good price' to pay ! As it has been polished it does have less desirability to many collectors. I have not purchased one for over 30 years. The last one which I no longer have I paid $100 for and it was a bit rough although not polished. You won't go wrong under $200. By the way ...... I am a proud 'cheapskate'!
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 Posted 07/23/2013  03:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ThisIsFun to your friends list
Agree with FR-- a good deal if purchased for under $200, probably even higher.
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 Posted 07/23/2013  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenacious to your friends list
The "M" at the bottom of the coin and the monogram under the throne identify this as an Alexander lifetime coin from the "Babylon" mint. Babylon is in quotes because for now these coins are placed at Babylon but it's possible they were made at the Susa mint. Even Martin Price conceded this. There's just not enough certain information on these. Personally I think in time evidence will be brought to light that they were made in Susa.

If you don't have access to Martin Price's reference book on Alexander's coins, search wildwinds or acsearch.info using Alexander and Babylon as search terms you should find examples with similar mint marks. But keep in mind there was a huge output of these Babylon coins. So you will find many different marks but the "M" with that monogram are specific to Babylon.

These coins, including the one posted, were minted c. 325-323 BC. Again, at Babylon or possibly Susa.

At one time I focused on Alexander's lifetime coins from Babylon so I have a few of these and I'm very familiar with them.
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07/23/2013 6:16 pm
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 Posted 07/23/2013  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenacious to your friends list
Ignore. Corrected in above post.
Edited by tenacious
07/23/2013 6:17 pm
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 Posted 07/23/2013  5:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I went ahead and purchased this coin today. I know it has some condition problems .. but I really like the cool factor.

Tenacious thank you for posting some very interesting information.

And yes there is a edit option. Look at the top of your post, there should be a icon that looks like a paper and pencil. I think there is a time limit on this edit function.
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 Posted 07/23/2013  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
Some more questions
It has been mentioned that if this coin is a lifetime coins, it could have more value, it that true?


also twice today I was asked if this is a hammered coin ..
Does anyone have any information on how these coins were made?
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 Posted 07/23/2013  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tenacious to your friends list
Yes, lifetime coins are usually more valuable. Would you want an Alexander coin made during his lifetime or sometime after he died? Most collectors would want the former. And hence the price/value goes up because of demand. But it's not a 100% of the time rule.

Here's a couple links about manufacture:

http://www.classicalcoins.com/page103.html

http://www-scf.usc.edu/~ciccone/htm...oduction.htm

Thanks for pointing out the Edit button. I must have been looking at someone else's post when I was looking to see if there was an Edit function available. And of course I can't see the Edit button on others' posts.
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 Posted 07/23/2013  8:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I like those links ... I now have them both in my favorite links ...
thanks again
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 Posted 07/23/2013  9:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GR58 to your friends list
I like this link .. thought it would be a good one to add to this thread

http://coinsoftime.com/Articles/Coi...e_Great.html
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