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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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I agree, unload. If I had it, I would. If it was ungraded, id probably go sandblast if I had the option (I dont).
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Pillar of the Community
 United States
723 Posts |
That's my question. Will the ugly come off? Without ruining the value?
So far I am hearing "Heck No".
Another question is raised though . . . . . this piece is indeed in a PCGS MS65 holder. The goal of the TPGs (one of them at least) is to enable "sight unseen" evaluation and purchase of coins. Right?
Wow, someone would be disappointed in this case.
Let me re-iterate, I do not own this coin. My question runs more toward the academic "what if" I were to purchase it, could it be saved?
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Moderator
 United States
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My question runs more toward the academic "what if" I were to purchase it, could it be saved? I sincerely doubt it. Only a dip would help, and I think the spotting is too dark for a safe dip to ameliorate; if you don't get it all, what you did would be obvious. OTOH, if PCGS graded it looking exactly as it does here, I would be tempted to think that there was a true MS66 hiding under the color, because it's definitely a detriment to the absolute grade. So I have to wonder if it turned in the slab - slabs aren't airtight and just as susceptible as raw coins to improper storage conditions. Honestly, if I had the kind of money it would take and no worries about throwing it away, I'd be tempted to see how badly I could screw it up.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
Australia
21788 Posts |
On this particular coin, it seems that great minds think alike!
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Moderator
United States
189603 Posts |
It is not worth the risk, so sell it and buy the coin you want.
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Moderator
United States
23522 Posts |
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It is not worth the risk, so sell it and buy the coin you want. Quote:
Let me re-iterate, I do not own this coin. My question runs more toward the academic "what if" I were to purchase it, could it be saved?  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
723 Posts |
If the crud would come off, and if there actually is a "66" under there somewhere . . . . . that is two very big "ifs".
A "65" trends at $400 or so.
A "66" trends at $700 or so.
The other "if" would be if it would even grade after a brutal dipping.
Maybe if I could get it for a couple hundred bucks, but I do not have any "throwaway" cash!!
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Moderator
United States
189603 Posts |
D'oh...  It is not worth the risk, so sell avoid it and buy the coin you want.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
723 Posts |
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D'oh...
It is not worth the risk, so sell avoid it and buy the coin you want. But how much fun would that be? |
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Moderator
United States
23522 Posts |
If I had the money to burn, I'd already own the coin and have an electrolysis setup ready to see what can be done about the problem. Fortunately, I'm poor. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
723 Posts |
Never considered electrolysis . . . . . . I know they do shipwreck coins that way. My understanding though is that electrolysis would remove METAL.
On that note, what would NCS do with this one?
I will go ahead and rule out the sandblasting that I reference in the title . . . . .
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Moderator
United States
23522 Posts |
I don't know *what* NCS would do for technique if they actually accepted it; they play their methods very close to the vest.
Electrolysis should just decompose the silver sulfide bond in favor of the more receptive aluminum, leaving unchanged original silver behind. No silver is removed. I've never tried it, though.
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CCF Master Historian of USA Commemoratives
United States
12301 Posts |
Is the coin in an authentic PCGS holder? Where's the serial number on the label?
I could be wrong, but I thought all genuine PCGS labels included a unique serial number on the label.
Collecting history one coin or medal at a time! (c) commems. All rights reserved.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Is the coin in an authentic PCGS holder? Where's the serial number on the label? I was thinking the same thing, possibly the owner photoshoped off the label? I will do that sometimes but only blur it not remove it. This coin is an okay buy if you could get it at MS62/63 money and then flip it on ebay or try the carck out dip and sell it raw with the PCGS label (though then it's esentially meaningless), otherwise I'd keep looking. As mentioned there is a high percentage chance of the toning spots not coming off this one in a dip/rinse. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
723 Posts |
As I do not own the coin, I photoshopped the numbers out in deferance to the owner's privacy.
Not sure I needed to, just seemed like the right thing.
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