| Author |
 Replies: 20 / Views: 5,761 |
Page 2 of 2
|
|
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
The metal flow pushes the planchet to stretch. I have one that is a nickel on a cent planchet. It is also off center that shows a rim area. The planchet is smaller than in the collar than a normal planchet would be. Off center strike:  Centered strike:  |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1699 Posts |
Definitely looks genuine to me. It's a really nice error and looks to have a natural surface. And of course, it's silver!
As to the irregular shape, you have to realize that the smaller planchet is trying to fill in gaps within the dies as well as spread out into the collar, so depending on the design and orientation of the planchet in relation to the dies and collar, you will see differing shapes.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2077 Posts |
What amazes me is that it circulated for 49 years before anyone noticed.
|
|
Valued Member
United States
388 Posts |
|
|
Bedrock of the Community
United States
62064 Posts |
It may have been in someone collection/drawer for a time. Someone may have just spent it.
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3640 Posts |
Just my opinion, but it sure looks like a nickel, period. A closer check of this coin would be in order
to determine it's exact composition. It would have to be of 90% silver. I'm going with nickel.
Whether the shape of this coin could be caused by the strike
is ?
|
|
New Member
 United States
23 Posts |
OldSkool/Coop, My uncle had it in his collection when he passed away 35 years ago and it passed to my parents. My father has only concentrated on building a great set of Morgans, so the oddball (non-Morgan) stuff has been sitting aside uninventoried and unresolved until I recently started getting into the hobby. Indian1, If it walks and quacks like a duck...you know the rest.  It weighs 2.49g, is the thickness of a dime, and it sure sounds like silver. |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
3640 Posts |
If it's that thin, then nice find. Did not know the thickness of it until now. Gotta admit though, it sure looks more nickely than the posted pic. of the dime planchet. Just for fun though anyway, if I had it I would do a simple home specific gravity test on it. Would be curious. Note: I've had a few blind dates in the past and they also walked and quacked like a duck but indeed were not ducks.  |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2757 Posts |
i am in the PMD camp. I would like to see the edge near the '64' in the date and the edge near the nose, for example. I bet they are different. Further, if you take a normal nickel, cut a sliver off of it, it will definitely not sound like a nickel anymore. |
|
Pillar of the Community
872 Posts |
I agree as well. Looks like a grinder or file was used on the coin. Its definitely uneven most of the way around, usually indicative of PMD. Heck it COULD have been an off center strike and some one decided to try and do it a favor by removing the "bad" portion. |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1699 Posts |
It's genuine, and I'll give a few reasons why: There is strong deformation due to metal flow in almost all of the peripheral wording. This is something that cannot be reproduced post-strike. The weight is consistent with a silver dime and it has toned like silver would. The central design is weakly struck because there was not enough metal to fill these gaps within the dies. Quote:i am in the PMD camp. I would like to see the edge near the '64' in the date and the edge near the nose, for example. I bet they are different. Further, if you take a normal nickel, cut a sliver off of it, it will definitely not sound like a nickel anymore. The edge near the nose WILL be different than the edge near the date. This is because the edge near the date was resting against the collar when the coin was struck and the other portion of the edge was not. Quote:I agree as well. Looks like a grinder or file was used on the coin. Its definitely uneven most of the way around, usually indicative of PMD. Heck it COULD have been an off center strike and some one decided to try and do it a favor by removing the "bad" portion A grinder or file will leave file marks and that is not present on this coin. The edge struck by the collar does not have file marks, so it could not have previously been an off center coin. The edge not struck by the collar is also smooth, without file marks. |
|
Pillar of the Community
 United States
4618 Posts |
ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!! 
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
601 Posts |
Maybe I misread the OPs comments, but I took him to be telling us what it is, sharing. I don't think the coin's owner is doubting it's validity, but rather offering us a chance to learn more.
Agreeing with the attribution of a genuine nickel struck on a silver dime planchet, I think PCGS would grade the coin (yeah, a numerical grade) somewhere between VF and XF. The thin planchet throws the appearance of wear and would take an in-hand examination to accurately say with certainty.
Remember, all 3 TPGs are guilty of grading BU quarter on dime stock errors as AU... grading will always be an opinion, but I don't think getting the coin into a normal holder (which will make it more sellable) will be a problem at all.
Neat coin, thanks for evoking some thought!
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
4618 Posts |
I want it. I love off-metal strikes. I had a nickel on a cent planchet and it was not round on one side. You'll even see large clips that do the same type of thing. the metal flows in the "path of least resistance." The lettering on the missing edge even looks like it could be on a clipped or off-center strike. Thin and trailing off the edge. The last coin I bought that was "off-metal" was on ebay as a THICK dime. It had been stamped from a sheet made for quarters. It filled the collar quite well, so it was nice and round. The OP has a great coin. ANA ID: 3203813 - CONECA ID: N-5637 Clean a coin that may be worth collecting? Please DON'T! When in doubt, leave it dirty!!
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
950 Posts |
This is fantastic! Thanks for sharing!
|
|
Page 2 of 2
|
Replies: 20 / Views: 5,761 |
Page 2 of 2
|
First Page
Posted 08/22/2013 11:19 pm
