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Am I Becoming A .........darksider

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 Posted 06/14/2007  03:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
quote:
My family is traced back to the Mayflower so this is all I've known


Hi andrew

my family is also traced back on my mom's side to the mayflower ,, its cool to know someone else who has that lineage back to such an amazing group of people .Maybe one day we can compare notes its more than likely our ancestors knew one another .

Now what country was that which claimed this contenient ?

Im pretty sure that at that time there was no US coinage,, that did not take place until well into the 18th century up until that time we had circulating coinage from very many different countries ,,Ireland ,england ,france,Mexico to name but a few ,,these coins continued to circulate for sometime after the US started making its own coins well up and through the civil war times,,now its very true that a person should have pride in their own countries coinage,,but to have a true reflection of our History as a nation ,, many other countries have also been contributors .

Metalman



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 Posted 06/14/2007  09:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew289 to your friends list
Thanks for the info metalman. I appreciate the response.

Have a nice day.
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06/14/2007 4:54 pm
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 Posted 06/14/2007  09:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TwoKopeiki to your friends list
Let's stop the bickering and baiting and concentrate on what this thread is really about:

Jim is feeling the pull of the DarkSide

Welcome, Jim!

~Roman

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 Posted 06/14/2007  1:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
Jim, that's a very nice coin! Are you going to be collecting just gold or expanding into all sorts of World coins?

Andrew, it cannot be tolerated for any members to disparage anyone's collecting interests. That said, your use of the words "junk" and "junky" are simply not acceptable here. The overall tone of many of your posts in this thread is very negative. We are a community and, as such, need to respect each other. Even if this is the way you feel, you need to consider your words and whether anyone could be offended by them. Please consider others' feelings when posting here on CC.

I am requesting at this point that you go back to your past posts and edit them to make them more acceptable.

Jim1953 started this topic on a very positive note to share his expanded collecting interests. This is one of those cases where, if you can't say something positive, it really isn't necessary to say anything.

FYI: Canada is known for making much purer gold than the US and many collectors feel that the US coin designs are very stale and start collecting World coins for some variety.
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 Posted 06/14/2007  4:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Andrew289 to your friends list
Thanks Forum Mom for the explanation.

I did a search for the word junk and I was surprised to see that the membership has been using the word quite frequently to disparage many collectors interests for quite a while. Since I've been taken to task for using the word, this will serve as a warning to all of the membership that the "J word" is no longer welcome anymore on these pages.

I'm sorry to hear that you are reading more into my tone than is there. The written word often suffers from the lack of emphasis and inflection making e-mail and board postings sound totally different than ones speaking voice. Meanings are often taken the wrong way.

I admit that I did get a little curt with Paulie but he made a wise crack and I only responded in my defense. I'm sorry that I overeacted to his comment.

In this day and age you can't dumb down all speech so that no one will get offended. Personally, I find it offensive that so many members constantly attack the President dollars and call them UGLY but I don't get my knickers in a wad and cry to forum moderators. Maybe I should. I think that UGLY is a disparaging term to those who work hard to collect those dollars. It's demeaning to read and makes me feel like my collection is less than worthy. Can we ban the use of the derogatory term UGLY in that instance PLEASE? It really takes a toll after a while.

If you would please take a stand for those of use who collect president dollars just like you have done today for those who collect non-US coins; I think it would be comforting to the membership. I for one would appreciate your support. I work hard on my collection and I know how low it makes you feel to get ragged on for collecting UGLY coins. I now know how the non-us coin collectors must have felt when I called the Australian nugget coin junky. It's not junky ...just not that pretty. My appologies.


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06/14/2007 4:57 pm
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 Posted 06/14/2007  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Check GO's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add GO to your friends list
Ugly isn't a bad word around here. We have had discussions about the Prez Dollars specifically just to give our opinions both positive and negative. I think most of them are ugly personally but The issue here I believe is when to make comments like that. If a new member or even a long term veteran just got the Brand New Jefferson Dollar and showed it to us because they were so proud to have a new coin then I would not talk down about it. JMHO
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 Posted 06/14/2007  5:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
Andrew, you make a very good point. While many collectors do not like the Presidential designs, they are still obviously a highly collectible coin and those people who collect them should feel that they can share that collection with support from the rest of the membership.

It's not the actual words "junk" or "junky". It was the context they were used in. Please understand that there are many forums where people can go and be made to feel uncomfortable. The purpose of CC is to have a place that is peaceful where we can all enjoy the hobby and learn from each other.

Especially because we have so many members from all over the world, it is important that we all respect each others' countries' coins and collections. This does not mean that we have to like them, just not put down others for collecting coins that don't appeal to us.

One of the reasons that we have emoticons is to soften the written word and help to get the actual meaning across. It is very easy for a joke to be taken seriously from just the written word.

I simply don't want anyone to feel that their collection or their interests are less important than anyone else's here. This forum is a great opportunity to truly share this hobby and expand collecting horizons. All I ask is that everyone consider their words before clicking on the Post New Reply button so that we can keep CC the family-friendly, community-oriented forum that it was intended to be.
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 Posted 06/14/2007  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
I guess one way we could put it would be to say, "One mans ______ is another mans treasure and that is SO true in numismatics!" As I have stated the world of possibilities in this hobby are endless and their is something for every budget. Even the smallest of children, with no financial budget, can get into this hobby as long as Dad and Mom keep the pocket change flowing or DAD doesn't wake up while they are helping themselves! Doesn't take much to start a collection but it does take a little heart and determination to continue one!
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 Posted 06/15/2007  12:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MountainLady to your friends list
I guess in a way I am a darksider, in that my most recent purchases have included gold 1/10 ounce Pandas, Maple Leafs, and a 1/2 ounce gold French rooster.
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 Posted 06/15/2007  10:56 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
Hi, MountainLady. Great to hear from you. Gary said that you were investing in high grade coins and by this post I would say you are. Do you have any pics you can fire up? Actually, mom, I have some others and not all gold. I will put up some pics when I get the camera out again. Yes, I have to admit, I am feeling the call to the darkside. As a side bar,I have experienced something recently, or have at least just become aware of it. The composition of the coin effects my attitude towards it. I really like gold, silver (Duh) and copper. I do not have any interest in coins made from anything else. No disrespect meant to the nickels of the world and I would be happy to own the keys for all of them. I guess it is not an intrinsic value thing when you consider copper, so go figure.
Jim
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 Posted 06/15/2007  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
Hey Andrew, I want to extend my sincere apologies for anything offensive I have posted in the past about the Pres. dollars. I have only recently started to enjoy coins of the world. Until now, my appreciation has only been for U.S. coins. I have probably taken my frustration with the U.S. mint out on the Pres. coin. I just feel that they have gotten into generating money and not the quality coinage that I expect. No disrespect ever meant.
Jim
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 Posted 06/15/2007  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
Hey Jim1953 I absolutely love my silver but have collected almost everything the U.S. has ever minted. Don't much care for dimes or nickels either except for one exception....The INDIAN/BUFFALO NICKEL which is my favorite coin of all time. I have slowed some by only buying those that I actually can see and touch!!! With prices escalating it is hard to pass up anything older than 1930 in fine or better, especially those with mint marks, as the buffalo seems to be disappearing in this area! And yes, before you ask, I went plumb crazy in 2005 with the new Buffalo nickel but realize I will have to keep them for an eternity before they will ever be worth much. Now the massive amount of proof buffalo's I managed to pick up are already increasing in value so my new herd does have some worth already!
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 Posted 06/16/2007  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
Crystalk64, I know what you mean about the Buffalo nickel. It is one of my absolute favorites. I past on a UNC Comm. set of Indian/Buffalo coins at an auction last night. They were at $65 and I was not sure about their value and past on them. Heck, they are worth $250.00. Should have known as the world loves the Buffalo. Jim
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 Posted 06/16/2007  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
I am so hooked that when I passed a cement buffalo in a man's yard today I had to wonder just how heavy that thing really was and what it would cost me to buy one! My wife thinks I have gone off the deep end but I still can't get that cement buffalo (very well painted I might add) off my mind!!! I could put it out here in my year near my buffalo flag and my buffalo hunter parking only sign!!! Of course I could always pose for a photo in my buffalo shirt and buffalo hide
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 Posted 06/17/2007  2:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jim1953 to your friends list
Crystalk, could you say "thats' no bull"!
Jim
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