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Dealing With A Counterfeiter

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 Posted 10/05/2013  12:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pocket change 50 to your friends list
Lately I've found roughly 10 ebay ads for fake titanic coins they are copies of Canada's & Tuvalu's titanic coins. The sellers don't mention they are copies. The Canada/Fijij fakes have Canada in the description. I report the ads and it doesn't seem like ebay does anything. Some sellers repeatedly sell these coins. The sellers are in Canada/US/UK.
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 Posted 10/05/2013  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
The seller is based in Thailand (they claim to be a British National, I'm not so sure). Ill poke into the Thai law on it.

In the meantime ill be opening a case against him.
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 Posted 10/05/2013  01:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
I doubt it's an ebay seller - BenByfield's ebay purchase history has 108 transactions with 62 sellers, but only 8 where you did 3+ purchases from them. All of them are Roman coins or UK/Canadian tokens except with two sellers the transactions are private but both of them are based in the UK. Oh and you seem to be single handidly keeping the Royal Mail afloat - I thought US postage was expensive!

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 Posted 10/05/2013  06:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list
What kind of coins? This place is totally awash with fake Trade dollars and Chinese silver.

Where in Thailand? Just the town for now. Perhaps I could pay them a visit (know what I mean? ).
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10/05/2013 06:40 am
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 Posted 10/05/2013  1:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Bstrauss its ebay but I havent left feedback so I doubt it'd come up. And 108 transactions?! Even I didnt know that!

They are bullet coins - silver plated brass, in this instance. The guy is now trying to resolve it - He's offered me a silver 50 baht coin.
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 Posted 10/05/2013  1:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thai-vic to your friends list
Thanks for the heads-up about fake bullet coins. Hadn't heard that one before.
Haven't bought one yet or a tiger-tongue piece but if I ever do I'll have it assayed at a jewellers before purchasing.

Hope the problem gets resolved.
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 Posted 10/05/2013  6:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Your in the UK. He is in Thailand. We are in the USA. Not much anyone could really do to hurt that seller from here or where your at. Yes if it's on ebay, he could be shut down but could simply pop back up with a different name. You could go to Thailand, hire a hit man there and get even. However, all that would cost a lot more than your coins. And then too, he could hire the same hit man for more money. Regardless of what you do, such situations are what happens when you get involved with international deals and no real international police.
To late but with such deale you should buy one, check it out and if no good, just don't buy more.
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 Posted 10/11/2013  12:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Hes not going to fix this and hes been selling a lot of counterfeits. Looks like I'm going to have to report him to ebay and hand the powers that be his address. Ruddy annoying. I might list the things I bought on ebay as replicas and see if I can get some money back.
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 Posted 10/11/2013  4:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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Looks like I'm going to have to report him to ebay and hand the powers that be his address. Ruddy annoying. I might list the things I bought on ebay as replicas and see if I can get some money back.


Unless it's ebay USA which hosted the transaction, I don't know if you'll get any action - and that site will not allow your resale. ebay.com may or may not have equivalent rules to the relatively strict prohibitions on ebay.com.

I'm thinking you take that-vic up on his offer.
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 Posted 10/12/2013  9:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Jesus, this guy is horrible. He's left me positive feedback saying that I sell counterfeits (Im guessing he meant to leave negative feedback). Hes apparnetly returning to the UK to attend his mothers funeral, for hwich I feel for him, but says he'll come visit while hes in the country, which kind of washed away the sorrow. He comes anywhere near my house and its a matter for the police, I'm not entertaining some deadbeat criminal. Eesh...
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 Posted 10/12/2013  9:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nalaberong to your friends list
D:

Creepy.

It's amazing how quickly his mother died in the UK when he got someone mad in the UK, though. Say yes and he'll string you along with even more tragedies.
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 Posted 10/13/2013  1:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BStrauss3 to your friends list
He'll soon run out of immediate relatives (parents, sibs, grandparents), but unfortunately it's always the pile of nieces/nephews, aunts/uncles and cousins that trip you up. With a big family he can be selling fakes for years....
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 Posted 10/13/2013  2:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
"Well, if I resold what I bought from you I'd darn sure be selling counterfeits."

What a maroon.
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 Posted 10/23/2013  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ben to your friends list
Small victory...I got a refund for the most expensive one I bought - I got £20 back. But he hasnt been banned which I find absolutely shocking. REALLY shocking.

Im going to try and open cases for every single other purchase from the guy and instantly escalate it to try and retrieve the rest.
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 Posted 10/24/2013  2:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add andyg to your friends list
>> He's left me positive feedback saying that I sell counterfeits (Im guessing he meant to leave negative feedback)

Sellers cannot leave negative feedback.

Since he's in Thailand not much can be done I suspect other than opening ebay cases against him. You should at least get your money back though.
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