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Pillar of the Community
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quote.."the toning would be considered environmental damage".
That's exactly what I was thinking and was hoping that the nickle experts would add their comments...but I guess that they are shy to...
Nickles seem to be at their best when they have an original bright "fresh from the roll" luster and look.
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Edited by DEVLEC 11/06/2013 6:27 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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Send this coin to PCGS and it would come back in a body bag as altered surface or something similar.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Yikes..!! That bad...Eh...!!.. 
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Thanks for the permission! I will use your nickel as an avatar. Now anyone know how I can change my CCF avatar to this nickel? I'm not too good when it comes to technology. My new printer is still in its box and it's 22 months old, but with a 5 yr warranty. It's one awesome nickel, it's a shame it would get a body bag.
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Valued Member
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I once found a dime that was stuck in the middle of a roll of pennies that had been unopened for sixteen years that had developed some similar toning. At first I thought it was a silver dime until I read the date, 1979. I wonder if long-term contact with copper can cause this phenomenon to occur?
Edited by nickelphr33k 11/06/2013 10:33 pm
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Nickel does tone, given some water and the right conditions... https://goccf.com/t/136928But yes, it is corrosion when you zoom up to a microscopic scale, much more so than the patina or toning on bronze or silver.
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Edited by SPP-Ottawa 11/07/2013 3:40 pm
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Valued Member
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Spot on, SPP-Ottawa. Unfortunately, I have to agree,corrosion is damage no matter what color it might be. This nickel, would have to be graded and or priced accordingly.If I was to send this coin to any grading service, it would most likely come back with disappointing results. In this case, this coin was found in the ground,therefore it would be environmental damage. I have to say,though that, the toning here is very engaging,it has great eye appeal,and I enjoy studying it,very lucky to find it, and proud to own it!
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Valued Member
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Seeing as this new one is a 2008...Have all of these coins here received some kind of chemical wash to make these colours appear?
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That loon looks like it has been subjected to high temperatures....
"Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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I really like the loon. I'm a bit confused, the nickel's toning its actually corrosion? Then is all toning considered corrosion and therefore damage? I'm trying to understand where toning fits in ? In the states it seems to add to eye appeal. One day I hope to understand most of this.
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Valued Member
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the confusion seems to lie in the hands of the individual collector. How a coin is graded by individuals with different opinions on the subject of whether a coin has naturally toned ,a purist would argue, as in a case,or holder. The other half of the debate is artificially toned coins , as with heat chemicals ETC.Collectors who are a lot less picky about the hows and whys of the hobby, and just like the look of a coin. Then somewhere in between, is the environmentally toned coins. Air water,earth,A gray foggy area of the hobby that is still an ongoing debate. . The process , for all three types of toning(or corrosion) are different, therefore they create a different type of toning. The crux of the matter really comes down,in my opinion, to quality of the piece, and eye appeal, but thats just me.Others would argue that, a true tone would have to be natural, as opposed to environmental, like water, or air,or artificial on the other end, the chemically treated, or heated coins, which do create beautiful toning, but its NOT natural! An older touched coin can tone amazingly over time, as well as a capsulized one, which slows down the process considerably.
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Forum Kid
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Yes indeed a very nice toning!
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