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How Can This Be MS-66 ?

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 Posted 11/11/2013  8:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list
It's pretty tough to make an accurate call on coins graded this high just on photos
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 Posted 11/11/2013  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list
so it is at least a fairly high grade then ?
any estimates ?
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 Posted 11/11/2013  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list
oh wait, jdmern you meant the ebay ones ?
or mine ?
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 Posted 11/11/2013  8:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
If the mark on the nose is as distracting in hand as it is in the photo you have a $20 coin.If not you'll understand the significance of jdmerm's reply.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add doubleeagle59 to your friends list
The ICCS ms66 is most likely almost flawless in regards to contact marks on the coin's surface (toning doesn't matter).

While the PCGS ms66, is more than likely an 'ICCS ms65' due to some hit marks on the surface, but because PCGS rewards a coin for toning, they bumped the grade up to an ms65.

Your coin however seems to have plenty of small hit marks and ICCS in my opinion would grade it as ms63.(I don't think it's a PL).

No disrespects intended, but to the experienced eye, the difference in grade between your coin and both the PCGS and the ICCS coins is very apparent.
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They aren't great looking coins but their technical grade would be correct.
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 Posted 11/11/2013  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jdmern to your friends list
canadtech, yes I was talking about the ebay ones
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 Posted 11/11/2013  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list

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your coin however seems to have plenty of small hit marks and ICCS in my opinion would grade it as ms63.


can a coin with a chunk missing from the rim still grade MS63?

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can a coin with a chunk missing from the rim still grade MS63?


Why, yes they can... and higher...

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Why, yes they can...and higher...


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can a coin with a chunk missing from the rim still grade MS63?


I don't think that's damage, but rather I believe it's the black cardboard edge overlapping the coin making it appear to be rim damage.
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 Posted 11/12/2013  11:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list
that is correct, it is the cardboard, the photo wasnt exactly straight on..
there isn't a chunck missing.
the scratch on the queen's nose is not as noticable
in hand unless at similar angle as photo, seems I ended up
catching it just right !
anyway, the second ebay coin I posted looks to me
like it caught a quick spray from a sandblaster ! looks all pitted.
i just can't imagine them selling for the asking price.
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 Posted 11/12/2013  11:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list
that is correct, it is the cardboard, the photo wasnt exactly straight on..
there isn't a chunck missing.
the scratch on the queen's nose is not as noticable
in hand unless at similar angle as photo, seems I ended up
catching it just right !
anyway, the second ebay coin I posted looks to me
like it caught a quick spray from a sandblaster ! looks all pitted.
i just can't imagine them selling for the asking price.
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 Posted 11/12/2013  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list
unless it's just poor photos....?
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 Posted 11/12/2013  11:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list
unless it's just poor photos....?
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