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New Member
 Australia
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Thanks Shanew, I agree with you, I've had such a close look at it and I can not see it being fake, hopfully someone may know about them :-)
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Hi can you take a photo of the other side as well, this will help to determine if it is a counterfit.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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keep in mind the 2000 mule was taken as a fake and joke at one stage in its life skipppyrob
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New Member
 Australia
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here is the flip side :-) 
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
1006 Posts |
Hi I do not think that this is a mule in any way shape or form. What I think has caused this is a tilted strike of some sort and with the second rim appears to rise above the first one really supporting this. The difference between this and the 2000 $1 mule is exactly this the 2000 mule has a double rim but at no point does it rise above the original rim. This link provides a very good photo of the 2000 $1 mule to show this. Yeah as much as we would all like to believe it it is actually pretty much only worth face value. In terms of being on a different planchet is almost impossible as the metal is processed, refined and struck all within Australia notably we do strike coins for a select number of foreign nations but I do not believe many of them use cupronickel in the ratio we use it 75-25 and I believe none would use it with the diameter being barely larger than our two dollar.
To not ramble on but even if that were in some alternate universe it would be very improbbable that it would have managed to make its way on to a Australian $2 processing line.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Does the coin have normal reed around the edge ?,if not maybe the collar die was absent when the coin was struck,in other words a broadstrike.
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Moderator
 Australia
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Wrong size, wrong weight, I'd vote counterfeit - that's a far more likely possibility for a $2 coin than a wrong planchet. It's very weakly struck. Where'd his eyes go? 
Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I agree with Sap, it does look like a counterfeit
Edited by flippy 11/18/2013 09:17 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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That was my first thought in post number 3 if you care to read the whole thread.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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My partial coin collection http://www.omnicoin.com/collection/gxseriesMy numismatics articles and collection: http://www.gxseries.com/numis/numis_index.htmRegularly updated at least once a month.
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New Member
 Australia
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Thank you all very much for the input, I do appreciate it :-). as for the reeded edge, yes it does have a reeded edge. I am inclined to agree that is could be a fake, my only reply to that is why the heck anyone would go through all that drama for something worth $2, makes no sense to me. (mind you, there are strange people out there as we all know). Again, many thanks to everyone who replied .
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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There are tonnes of fake $2 coins in circulation. Dont for a minute think that its not worth it. These things are never made on there own but would almost always be produced in the 1000's. It adds up pretty quickly. The $2 is a perfect target because its small in size but worth quite a bit still.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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OMF Are you sure that the metal for the $2 is refined/processed in Australia? IIRC the one dollar uses the same alloy and a bimetal coin (foreign blank) turned up a few years ago because the blanks came from Korea. I assume that Korea also supplies the $2 blanks.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I am quite sure nealeffendi they generally occur domestically because the RAM produces coins as well for foreign countries but it has been quite a while since the last coin was not intentionally struck on a different planchet. Anyway Australia produces an absolute ton of metals including Iron, Copper, Nickel, Aluminium as well as being rich in a number of other areas coal, uranium, diamonds, opals etc. Australia is very much the mine of the world
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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2 dollars is worth a fair bit - in fact the RAM finds 2 dollar coin the most profitable to strike and so do the counterfeiters. The cost of the metals if I remember correctly were worth less than 10 cents plus or minus and if you mass produce it, it can be profitable.
Bear in mind - I found a Chinese 1 yuan coin, face value worth mere 12 US cents which is a counterfeit. I don't see why a 2 dollar coin is not profitable.
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