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I Want To Buy My First My First $20.00 Double Eagle

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 Posted 12/11/2013  9:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yellow88 to your friends list
I don't think I could handle the stress buying a raw or even a slabbed one off of ebay. I'd die with worry.. and that's no fun for anybody. I have found some great prices at some of the larger coin/bullion dealers online. The best deal I found were Double Eagles graded at MS64 by either PCGC or NGC. Average cost was about $1560. Most online dealers selling something like this will also give you a quote in regards to you selling it back to them. The spread , to my surprise, was actually quite narrow.

I am a modest man of modest means who likes keeping his affairs as discrete as possible. I buy an MS 64 slabbed Double Eagle from my LCS and pay with cash. My transaction is private, the LCS owner will want to see me again, and having the coin slabbed would put aside any fears of buying unslabbed raw coins whether it be a local person or someone on the internet.
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 Posted 12/11/2013  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkman123 to your friends list
get ngc or pcgs slabbed
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 Posted 12/11/2013  9:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Buddy to your friends list


If you have a local coin store, you can check their reputation on your local Better Business Bureau site.

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 Posted 12/11/2013  11:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
with SsuperDdave:


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In addition to trusted dealers and coin shows, major auction houses like Heritage, Stacks Bowers and Great Collections are good sources.



I might also add Harlan J. Berk as a fine provider of gold coins. I have purchased many of my US gold coins from them.

http://hjbltd.com
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 Posted 12/12/2013  7:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleEagle20 to your friends list
Start out by looking for a nice 1924 or 1928 Saint MS-64 or 65 only in a PCGS slab. All of my mint state double eagles are PCGS slabbed coins. The plentiful supply of them will allow you to do comparison shopping and they do not go for large amount of money beyond the value of their gold content. Look carefully for carbon or copper spots and avoid those coins. Also avoid reddish spots on them as well. Look for good, strong satiny luster and nice, even toning, especially look for the "orange peel" color of toning. It is a hallmark of a double eagle that has not been dipped or chemically treated. Most of them gained their nice color sitting in vaults of European banks for the past few decades.
Also consider buying Q David Bowers guide book on Double Eagles. It is the bible on double eagle collecting, IMO.
Above all, do NOT buy raw and don't rush into buying one. There are tons of 1924 and 1928 coins from which to choose. Start with a local coin dealer or coin show, and not online. If you do buy online from a reputable dealer, look at good pictures first and make sure you can send it back if not saisfied with the coin...no questions asked.
Glad to hear you are considering hopping into them. Trust me, one won't be enough. I'll even throw an idea at you. Start working on a Roaring Twenties common coin date set...1920, 1922, 1923-D, 1924, 1925, 1926, 1927 and 1928.
Where one begins, another one ends. I am soon looking to close off my collection with a nice circulated 1860's no motto in a PCGS or NGC holder. Probably an 1861 or an S mint from 1861-1865.
The kingpin of the collection is an original surface, XF-40 1852-O. Took me 4 years to find one I liked.
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12/12/2013 8:37 pm
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 Posted 12/12/2013  10:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jarubla to your friends list
Hat tip to Moe145 for the HJB site...Thank you!

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 Posted 12/12/2013  10:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list
And as you move up into more expensive and tougher date gold coins, there is Douglas Winter and Kagain's they are both very respected gold dealers, that have been in business a long time, I have a good personal relationship with Kagin's as Art Kagin was one of my first mentors in the coin business, his son David is very knowledgable especially when it comes to the territorial stuff. Dug writes for several coin publications and has written quite a few books on gold coins. His website always has some tasty coins on it! http://raregoldcoins.com I agree with others comments on getting your first coins slabbed as you are a novice to buying them, and there are some really good and deceiving fakes in the marketplace. But if you are buying from an established dealer you should not worry much.
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 Posted 12/13/2013  08:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ambro51 to your friends list
Go to a major coin show you will see thousands of slabbed $20s. They are everywhere. Buy a CAC stickered coin. Buy a CAC stickered coin. Unless you didn't get the last two sentences....buy a CAC stickered coin.
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 Posted 12/14/2013  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleEagle20 to your friends list
Ambro51 has as a very good point.
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 Posted 12/14/2013  3:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list
Are you looking for a high grade example as an investment or just one want own for your collection? If the former, I would definitely agree with what everybody here has said. If the latter, however, I don't see anything wrong with buying a raw coin from a reputable bullion dealer like APMEX. For example:

http://www.apmex.com/product/4364/1...uncirculated
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 Posted 12/14/2013  4:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list
I am thinking of adding some gold too. I checked HA past auctions. When gold was $400-500 an oz the common Slabbed MS63's sold for about that. How long will it take for commons to get closer to current spot of $1250?
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 Posted 12/14/2013  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleEagle20 to your friends list
I think those days are gone, tpg22. The pre-1933 commons are beginning to gain numismatic value, especially the original surface coins. I had a dealer gray sheet a 1861 philly mint double eagle for me in case I find one I like. Even in VF-XF they are $2100. 1861-P was a high mintage coin. Probably go with an "S" mint from that era instead if I hafta pay top dollar.
It's all this quantitative easing "hot money" that is driving the higher prices.
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 Posted 12/18/2013  8:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yellow88 to your friends list
Thanks for all the great info. It is appreciated. I have some studying and learning to do.
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 Posted 12/20/2013  11:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DoubleEagle20 to your friends list
Yup, you do. Your best first investment is "A Guide Book of Double Eagle Gold Coins" by Q David Bowers. It will give you vital background information on the coins and tips on how to collect them from experienced people. My copy is still functioning but it's pretty ragged now. The price information is off since it has been awhile since last publication. but I didn't buy it for that...lol.
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