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Pillar of the Community
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I wonder when that was done?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Interesting, it looks like it has been done recently as the carved parts have a shiny copper colour and the rest of the coin has toned.
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New Member
 New Zealand
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Hi Nathan
Yes, I was thinking the same thing. But there was about 180 Victorian coins in this lot and none of the others had this operation performed on them. It must have taken some time. I got the lot fairly cheap off an auction site (might have been someone liquidating an estate) and I really don't know why anyone would do that to a coin in an otherwise nice grade.
Anyway, I think it's pretty cool too. I'm going to put it in my collection. When I was pulling the coins out of the bulk bag, I saw the reverse first and was excited to have a nice Victorian penny without the wear and circulation typical of these coins. When I saw the back I was slightly disappointed at first but now I think it's really cool. :)
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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The cuts actually look like they've been there for some years. The method used can place it anywhere from the time the coin was minted to now, so you'd have to age the modification from the toning. A new cut like that would be a brighter orange. It was most probably done when this coin had no value above face, however an engraver lacking numismatic knowledge could have done it at any time.
By the way, thanks for sharing!
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01/07/2014 6:00 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Does anyone else think it looks like it was done with an electric engraving tool?
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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+1
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 United States
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Does anyone else think it looks like it was done with an electric engraving tool?
In the hands of a master, if it was. I wonder what the significance of the "4" on the shoulder is? Might be worth looking into British and/or Boer uniforms of the day, to see if any used that designation. It might give you a look into the head of the engraver. Or, given your location, perhaps NZ military. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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My guess is not electric.
This is very similar to the engraving done on inexpensive shotguns. Particularly, Belgian double barrels from about 100 years ago.
If I understand correctly, a small sharp chisel is stabbed into the metal. And by lifting one side and advancing the tool, then lifting the other side, the tool can be made to "walk" forward creating chains of "Z" patterns.
Can any one verify or dispute my hunch?
Thanks
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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The 4 probably refers to a unit 4th Foote etc.
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Valued Member
Canada
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Thanks for posting, very interesting!
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Valued Member
United States
324 Posts |
Chute72 is correct. This type of engraving is called wiggle or wriggle cut. It is a very quick way to add engraving, but not the most attractive way.
Joe
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Pillar of the Community
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Another example of craftmanship. The picture shows a Belgian copper 2 centimes coin, probably from shortly before WW I. What is retained is the monogram and crown of King Albert I and the outer rim of the coin. It has been gilded and worn as a medal.  |
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Valued Member
United States
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Always happy to see someone make an unexpected find.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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