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Legit Seated Half?

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 Posted 01/14/2014  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add zxcccxz to your friends list
The bust is a bit off and as BH1964 said, this is a valuable coin. Ask for a return policy and pay with Paypal and you should be good.
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 Posted 01/14/2014  8:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
That dot looking thing on her face has me concerned...
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 Posted 01/14/2014  11:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
1870 S Half Dollar for comparison:

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 Posted 01/14/2014  11:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Looking at my Half Dollar versus yours makes me suspicious of the date (the 7 particularly). Can you post a close up of the date?
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 Posted 01/14/2014  11:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
The 1870-S only used three reverse dies, all with a very small mintmark. One tail die has the mintmark placed well below the curve of the feather tip and another tail die has a similar mintmark placement in the crotch formed by the feather tip and the olive stem. The third die has a weak to missing upper curve on the S, depending on die state. Moe's coin shows the mintmark position on Die 1. If the mintmark on the 1870-S in question does not match one of the three dies, it is not genuine.
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 Posted 01/14/2014  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add LogPotato to your friends list
I am not an expert on the series although I do collect them, but the first thing that jumped out at me was the 7 in the date which Moe mentioned. It looks wrong. Without better pics, that is the best advice I can give.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add matthewvincent to your friends list
About the bust being 'off':
Looks 'off' to me, too.
Note second spot in the neck area.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  12:37 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I don't like it at all. Looks diagnostically incorrect.
Weight would tell for sure.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  07:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list
Thanks for the heads up, its in with other nice regular date coins which I don't have any doubts about so i'll factor this into my offer. Guy says the weight is 13g and measures 3cm but for all I know he could have weighed that on non digital kitchen scales and measured it with a ruler and the naked eye quickly.

Think I'm going to listen to the creature on my shoulder screaming at me 'if it looks too good to be true....'
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 Posted 01/15/2014  09:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinaholic73 to your friends list
Having looked at the date again (sorry thats the best picture I have of it) the '1' of 1870 looks wrong to me too? On the real thing the top of the 1 is curved whereas 'my' example it appears flat.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
You spotted the 1 before I saw the thread. Allof the 1870's should use the same date punch sothey should all be the same. The 1 on the OP coin does not match the 1 on the coin Moe145 posted. The 7 may be off as well but I can't see it as well on the OP photo.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
I hadn't noticed the "shovel/wedge" head of the 1 versus the curved 1 of my 1870 S.


I guess that's why this Forum is worth its salt!
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 Posted 01/15/2014  7:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tomtom777 to your friends list
The 1 and 7 looks different between both of them as well to me.
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 Posted 01/15/2014  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
If anyone is not yet convinced, here's a blow up of the clearest picture of an 1870 date I have on my computer:



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 Posted 01/15/2014  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add judd1552 to your friends list
Too many red flags pointed to here. I vote forgery. For now.
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