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 Posted 11/24/2021  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JasonKflo to your friends list
wow thats a nice Middlesex
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 Posted 11/24/2021  11:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add westcoin to your friends list

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wow thats a nice Middlesex


I'd even say it's rather sexy for a Middlesex token.

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 Posted 11/30/2021  10:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yarm to your friends list
Middlesex 27 by T.Hall, taxidermist and exhibitor.

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This site on Victorian taxidermy includes notes on Hall's tokens.
http://taxidermy4cash.com/Victorian.html
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 Posted 12/16/2023  8:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list
I'm not sure if this is still the appropriate topic for tradesmans tokens, Conders etc, but here are mine for what they are worth.

1790 Macclesfield Halfpenny token D&H 24
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1801 Stafford Penny D&H 3


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1789 Assoc. Irish Mine Company Halfpenny Token D&H 5


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 Posted 12/18/2023  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Very nice Middlesex 27 T.Hall.
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 Posted 12/18/2023  9:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
Cool coins ttkoo, I've always had kind of a soft spot for Conder tokens. Here are a couple I haven't posted here.


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 Posted 12/19/2023  12:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list
@chrsmat71
Yeah, yours are really nice.
I like the soft 17 on the Kent Lamberhurst Halfpenny. Do you have the edge lettering? I think there are 4 varieties, 2 are rare.
I don't have a Withers catalogue of 19th century tokens yet, working on it.
I'm just branching into tradesman's tokens. Hard to source at a reasonable price down-under, and international delivery can be a killer. Still, grab what ya can!
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 Posted 12/19/2023  09:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Here are a couple I haven't posted here.
Very nice!
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 Posted 12/19/2023  5:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
Hey thanks JBuck!

ttkoo, yeah the Kent token does have edge lettering, I took a pic...

"payable at Lancaster, London, or Bristol" , I've always liked edge lettering for some reason, definitely a plus when I see it on token or any coin really.
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Also found a couple other token I hadn't posted here...

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 Posted 12/19/2023  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ttkoo to your friends list

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ttkoo, yeah the Kent token does have edge lettering, I took a pic...

"payable at Lancaster, London, or Bristol" , I've always liked edge lettering for some reason, definitely a plus when I see it on token or any coin really.


The edge lettering rings my bell too!

Your's is one of the rarer varieties, nice one.
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The 1811 Bath Penny looks good enough to eat.
I have the Sir Isaac Newton 1793, but in awful condition, on mine his portrait is all but gone. Your example is superb, well collected!

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 Posted 12/19/2023  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add daltonista to your friends list

chrsmat71, nice tokens!

Without knowing how much digging you've done into the 19th-century pieces, I'll just point out that your Bath Penny is known among specialists (ahem, like me ) as Withers 15. There are three recorded varieties, depending on the combination of edge graining and die rotation, so you'll have to let us know back here which you've managed to acquire:

W15: edge /////, dies (Common)
W15a: edge /////, dies (Very Common)
W15b: edge \\\\\, dies (RRR = extremely rare)

At the time this token circulated, Samuel Whitchurch was into metals and William Dore handled textiles, both in fabrication and sales at the local level. They probably partnered up on issuing this token after getting to know one another as sponsors of a private boys school, but no one knows for sure what brought them together. Interestingly, they released three silver tokens as well, all in the then-unheard-of four shillings denomination, issued nowhere else during the Regency Period and not seen again until Victoria's double florins appeared in 1887 for her Jubilee.

Here's one of my Bath specimens, Dalton Somersetshire15 (RR):
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 Posted 12/20/2023  11:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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Also found a couple other token I hadn't posted here...
Nice pair!

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Here's one of my Bath specimens, Dalton Somersetshire15 (RR):
Excellent!
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 Posted 12/22/2023  5:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
Thanks again JB and thanks for the info ttkoo and daltonista! I'm not at all a specialist, I had two blank pages in my coin album and just decided to fill them with Conder type tokens a few years ago. Just such huge interesting variety and lost of cool art on them.

That silver Bath token is very nice, I picked up my first silver token. Looks like that collection my stray out of it's original two pages in the album!

My Bath token is 15a, had to get it out and look at it but added that to my coin info!
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