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Question About PL Silver Dollars.

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 Posted 01/29/2014  4:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MacBane to your friends list
I apologize for asking this in your thread OP. But, a lot of this thread is answering the questions I was going to post.

So, what would a coin taken out/removed from one of the uncirculated sets be considered? UNC, BU, PL, MS?

All these ratings are getting me confused a bit. And more specific the PL ratings that I'm seeing on ebay. Is PL just a rating that gets thrown around on ebay more than it should?
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 Posted 01/29/2014  5:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list
Macbane...No problem at all and very good question. The coin removed from an uncirculated set will not change what it was, be it prooflike, specimen, or NBU etc. The RCM has changed what it calls uncirculated sets over the years. Most pliofilm sets where called prooflike sets. I'm primarily a collector of 1967 and earlier coins. so someone will give you info on the sets issued after 1967.
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 Posted 01/29/2014  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add persistnt to your friends list
even wrapped in 2X2 a single should still be called PL (Proof like)..... the term bu was changed only resently to NBU the n standing for Numismatic ......meaning for coin collecters, not general public......
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01/29/2014 11:06 pm
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 Posted 02/01/2014  11:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list

At some point some people started objecting to the post-silver uncirculated set coins being called PL.

ICCS uses an NBU comment, meaning numismatic BU, and MS grading (e.g. MS-67 NBU).

CCCS uses a unique Unc designation (e.g. Unc-67)

Charlton lists MS grading, and added NC meaning non-circulating (e.g. MS-67 NC) and refers to the sets a BU uncirculated. Charlton lists 1967 and earlier in the numismatic section/volume, whereas 1968 and onward are in the collector coin section/volume.

Looking at a 2003 Charlton, they were still referring to 1968-1980 as PL. But, designated 1981 onward as "Uncirculated" claiming the mint classified them as such in 1981.

For Charlton, it looks like cameo effect perhaps was one determining factor in their thinking. Whereas cameo was a common feature of silver PL, nickel being much harder didn't easily take a cameo effect. There certainly are cameo nickel unc. set coins, but I don't think the effect is as attractive, and it doesn't seem to be a major consideration among collectors.

The 2003 Charlton designates the relief of 1967 and before as Ca. (Cameo) or Br. (Brillian), while only designating Br. for 1968 and onward.

Considering cameo was a somewhat accidental affect of the die preparation, and not universal to the production run, it seems odd that such an effect is being used to designate the finish.
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 Posted 02/01/2014  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bm0ney to your friends list
Another reference is the Canadian coin news trends section.
They have a "Canadian proof-like sets" section occasionally 1853-2012
The regular modern section has "prooflike/numismatic BU (from Unc/PL Sets)"
Another occasional section is "early proof-like singles" 1953-1976 with cameo and heavy cameo prices.
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 Posted 02/02/2014  12:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list
Another twist is that PL is also used for US coins.

Did Charlton get the term from the US?

SPL - Semi-proof-like
PL - Proof-like
DMPL - Deep mirror proof-like


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 Posted 02/02/2014  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Check thedollarman's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add thedollarman to your friends list
Instead of the semi PL-DMPL that the u.s. uses Canada uses cameo,heavy cameo,ultra heavy cameo.
Feel free to call me Will.
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 Posted 02/07/2014  8:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add canadtech to your friends list
I have 2 of each, 1962 & 1963 $1. Individually packaged the same as your pictures, so they were sold that way for those years for sure.
My uncle bought them when released and had them until I inherited them last year.
I also have the sets from 1961 to 1966, several of each.
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 Posted 02/11/2014  11:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list
I have four of the 71 silver PL that I ordered from the mint and they came in black presentation cases not sealed just sitting and toning away very nicely. I am very happy with them. I have some older bu 50 and 60`s that I bought a a LCS in Vancouver that arnt sealed in plastic
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 Posted 02/11/2014  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list
The '71 silver are not PL by our Canadian definition, they are specimen strike.
Nickel '71 dollars in the clamshell are also specimen.
Only '71 dollars in pliofilm sets are PL.
Some may say '71 dollars from custom sets are also PL,but they're not.
Is this confusing yet?
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 02/12/2014  01:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garys64wildcat to your friends list
Thank DBM
Mine sure look like proofs. But you are correct about being confused about what is what. I have a 71 nickle one also. As long as they are presentable coins I'm happy
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 Posted 02/12/2014  7:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add silverwolf to your friends list
i am unaware of any single silver dollar coins being issued individually in a single packet of plastic wrap. Are these coins not just cut from proof-like sets..?
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 Posted 02/12/2014  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wireman09 to your friends list
These are individually issued PL dollars and are not cut from PL sets. I'm missing the 1961 individually issued dollar and am interested in acquiring that year if anyone has one and is willing to part with it.
If anyone has a 1961 individually issued pliofilm packaged PL dollar, I would like to see a picture of it if possible.
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 Posted 05/29/2014  1:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sweetswede to your friends list
so are 1950-1952 PL silver dollars worth more due to rarity ?
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