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Valued Member
Australia
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Valued Member
Australia
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My business might average $65k a day but when you take out all the outgoings, 27 wages, rent, power, phone, taxes, stock etc etc it only makes around 8% a day. And no it isn't a gas station lol
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Valued Member
Australia
315 Posts |
Now getting back to what we were talking about Quote: Also, I would like to point out that the VAST majority of coin collecting in Australia (serious collecting) is based on pre-decimal coins which aren't used in circulation anyway Surely your not serious? Decimal collecting is taking over pre-decimal at a screaming rate of knots. I know this as a fact, ask any coin dealer if this is happening. As I said before, a lot of collectors only collect things that they can relate to. What do you call a serious collector? A person who collects things continuously? Pennys was always the number 1 collected coin in Australia for decades but I bet the top 2 collected coins now are decimals
Edited by coinsaus 02/18/2014 05:16 am
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Valued Member
Australia
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Ha! Quote: And no it isn't a gas station lol Coinsaus, you must have read my mind!
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
852 Posts |
So will decimals still be screaming ahead in another decade when any circulating cash will be just a memory? I suppose we could look at the current demand for 1 and 2 cent coins compared to current demand for pennies. There is no contest. Same will happen to the rest of the decimals after cash dies. Or will demand for future NCLT grannybait be able to push the demand for decimals to anywhere near the demand for the pre-decimals? 
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Pillar of the Community
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yeh but there was not to much you could get out of 1c2c look at a 1972 and compare to a 1952 half penny were they are at no comparison that kike eggs and chook poo
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Valued Member
Australia
315 Posts |
1 and 2 cents NEVER had the massive backing of collectors of decimal coins like 20c, 50c and $1 collectors so it's pointless comparing them to pennies. Will decimals be still screaming ahead in a cashless society? Well then answer would be NO but the answer still will be no to pre decimals also. They will become stale like stamp collecting (no offence to stamp collectors out there)
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Pillar of the Community
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it sold for 12000 plus coms good price
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Valued Member
Australia
315 Posts |
Sounds cheap but possibly because it is an error coin and maybe that's why.
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Pillar of the Community
 Australia
1041 Posts |
it was still in my top 10 to make a million
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Valued Member
Australia
338 Posts |
Quote: Surely your not serious? Decimal collecting is taking over pre-decimal at a screaming rate of knots. I know this as a fact, ask any coin dealer if this is happening. As I said before, a lot of collectors only collect things that they can relate to. What do you call a serious collector? A person who collects things continuously? Pennys was always the number 1 collected coin in Australia for decades but I bet the top 2 collected coins now are decimals I'm not at all saying that decimals are overtaking/not overtaking pre-decimals. Simply think of it like this, take the scarcest decimal coin from regular change (no fancy foreign mistakes) say for example a 1972 5 cent piece. I bought a 1972 5 cent piece graded ms67 for <$200. You would not be able to find many pre-decimal coins ms67 for <$200. So even though the coins are not "relevant" to today's new collectors they still command far higher prices than decimals. Thus, even items that are obsolete still have value and are still collected some 50 years after becoming obsolete. My point is backed-up by your statement that pennies are the #1 collected item. I'm not at trying to predict whether decimals will be more or less valuable than pre-decimals or whats in-vogue at the moment. What I believe is happening with pre-decimals is that the rarity of coins has been exaggerated. The market is flooded with high grade, low grade and every grade pre-decimal coins. What we're seeing in prices of pre-decimals is in-fact a correction while decimals are on the up. In terms of 1/2c pieces picking up a GEM 1967 or 1968 2 cent wouldn't be a bad idea right about now ;)
Edited by OneDollarMule 02/19/2014 10:25 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Why is the market flooded with pre decimal coins? The number of them in existence is fixed, so how do supply/demand/prices/number available to buy all fit together with 'the market is flooded'? I think you are saying that -there are lots for sale and -prices are dropping doesn't that mean that interest in them is dropping too? I don't really collect pre decimal, so I have not followed the market, but I am interested on how coin collecting is going.
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Valued Member
Australia
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Not at all, the market can be flooded by a fixed commodity. The fact that there are no new pre-decimals being produced (other than fakes) does not mean the number available to market is fixed. I simply noted that the current price of pre-decimals is being corrected by market forces. I believe the prices are too high for certain (most coins), the rarity of coins has been over-stated. I'm able to pick up a 1925 penny today a lot easier than I could a few years ago by venture of ebay and many other sources. The advent of the eBay/online trader versus the professional coin dealer has a lot to do with these price corrections. Is interest waning for pre-decimal coins? It's impossible to say what the market force is for certain.
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Australia
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Quote: Simply think of it like this, take the scarcest decimal coin from regular change (no fancy foreign mistakes) say for example a 1972 5 cent piece. I bought a 1972 5 cent piece graded ms67 for <$200. You would not be able to find many pre-decimal coins ms67 for <$200. Don't forget that you do have to take into consideration at these pre decimal coins that you are talking about have approx. 70yrs head start in pricing. There are decimals already that have higher values than most pre decimals in there much shorter lifespan
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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I was not saying that the market cannot be flooded with an item that is not being produced any more - I specifically said 'the number of them in existence is fixed' separately to 'number available to buy'. The point is that the only way the market can be flooded is that if current owners decide to sell, demand from buyers is not snapping them up. To me both of these things happening at the same time point to interest in them dropping - particularly if prices are dropping (which you also said is happening).
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