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New Member
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Yep, that's fine. I'm not getting excited. I do realise the chances are it's been cleaned along the line or something anyway, and there is always a possibility he picked it up as a fake a long time ago. Better to know than not know. Unfortunately I just picked it up to put away with tomato on my finger and left a big thumbprint on it any way so that has probably killed any chance of value from the acid in the tomato. But it's okay. This will stay in the family, unless it were worth a million, it's more valuable as family heritage with the rest of them to us.
But I will still get what I have valued and documented so that we can insure.
Wendy
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Australia
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Unfortunately I'm heavily leaning towards a fake. Take it to a dealer for confirmation
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Valued Member
Australia
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Also just noticed that from the angle view of the coin, it even looks thinner than a normal penny which would mean that it is underweight, typical for Chinese fakes
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New Member
Australia
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Thanks for the input. Have the faked coins been around for while? I've sent an email to the link suggested above, and what weight should it be? Very interesting now, a mystery I have to solve lol. I think I'm hooked on coins after spending time with all of these pre-decimals.
I put it up against the 1927 one and they seem the same size and weight. I'll be looking forward to getting news on this for everyone, either way.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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Yeah they have been since way back nowadays we have to distinguish from contemporary and modern fakes. On weight from the Museum Victoria site it says around 9.460g. I wouldn't be surprised about the same size and weight it is a valuable coin if genuine so the fakers will generally spend a lot of time trying to copy it detail for detail.
I am convinced that the coin it self is a fake and if I had to put money on it a modern fake and the brilliance which is really out of place for this date makes it seem very recent. I'd be betting on it being made in the last 15 years and assuming it was in a wooden wardrobe it would have well and truly toned brown if it were older than 15 years. My opinion tho.
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02/18/2014 07:16 am
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New Member
Australia
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oooh it's a bit exciting to find out now. I think the pics are brighter than it actually looks for some reason. Less than 15yrs isn't possible as both the grandparents have been dead for longer than that, and these haven't seen daylight from their tins and brown paper since way before that. But it could totally be an older fake.
Apparently the mother-in-law across the road has a heap more predecimals over at her place, so I'll be taking a sniff through those soon with my new found knowledge and spurned interest. I think I've got a new hobby :-)The great thing is I can make up some nice sets to hand down to my son, and we can have fun filling the missing dates.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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 , good luck with the '25 and remember to always be nice to the 'Mother in Law'.  |
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Australia
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Hahahaha oh yes, well hubs is supposed to get the coins when the time comes. I might just put in some groundwork first to be sure. :-P
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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It looks genuine imo but has been horribly cleaned. I couldnt see it being worth much more than $80.
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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It's interesting what you learn on CCF. I knew I had an Australian 1925 penny, but couldn't remember what condition it was in, so I've just taken it out of the album for a look. I got it in 1992 among a group of miscellaneous foreign coins in a junk bin somewhere in England:  It actually looks better than this in hand - it's a nice chocolate brown colour but I had to lighten the photo so the details would show. My 2001 Krause lists it as US$12.50 in Fine, so I always thought it was a lucky find but nothing exceptional. By the way, why is the 1925 penny, with a mintage of 1,639,000, so much more valuable than the 1926 penny with a mintage only slightly higher (1,859,000) ?  Edited by NumisRob
02/23/2014 06:22 am
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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you will actually find the mintage is 110,000 on the 1925
oh and I would say aVf but pre decimal copper is not my forte.
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02/23/2014 06:59 am
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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Thanks Serial. The mintage is definitely wrong in Krause - both my 1985 and 2001 editions show it as 1,639,000 - interestingly, it was valued at US$30 in Fine in 1985! I'd never realised this was such a scarce coin.
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The mintage was 117,000. The coin is nominally at least VF to gVF (8 pearls and centre diamond) but looks as though it has had a light polish and has a few other issues so not worthy of slabbing. Krause doesn't do non US coins very well. For some coins in the 2014 edition they have not updated the values since I purchased my 2001 edition. |
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I'm going to take mine somewhere to confirm whether genuine, and if it is I'll pop it into a coin book for my some and we can have fun seeing how many we have for a collection and what ones we can keep an eye out for to buy. Thanks for the exta info and pics, really fascinating int he world of coins
Wendy
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Pillar of the Community
Australia
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The penny mintage in 1925 was 949,600, 832,000 at the Sydney mint and 117,600 at the Melbourne mint. As the Sydney mint didn't have 1925 dies on hand it is presumed they struck pennies using 1924 dies and so therefore only 117,600 pennies were dated 1925. http://www.bluesheet.com.au/Austral..._V/1925_(MS)OP your coin is real but it's been harshly cleaned. |
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