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1992 Close AM Through Grease?

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 Posted 03/07/2014  09:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
That's crazy money!! I didn't realize that they were that pricey!! I looked up my 2000 a few weeks back and saw what the WAM was worth. $10+ in the condition I have. I know the 99 is worth more, $200-$300 in circulated condition and the 1998 WAM a buck or two. Now I knew the 1992 CAM is even scarcer...but not nearly as scarce as it has to be to draw big bucks like that. I indeed hope you've hit some pay dirt here. Did you mention how you came across it?
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 Posted 03/07/2014  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
These may help. Notice the thickness differences as
well as the angles.


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 Posted 03/09/2014  3:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Some straight on images would be better. But the jaw looks pointed on your coin. So I'm leaning toward a normal 1993 cent.
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 Posted 03/09/2014  5:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeremy730 to your friends list
Just took it over to my buddy Jeffers house we put it under his microscope and...its a 2 forsure, I'm going to submit it tomorrow for authentication and grading through pcgs , now I've never had a coin graded before it'll take up to 2 weeks to get it back, anyone know how they grade coins? Will they put it under micro scope? How do they examine coins exactly?
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 Posted 03/09/2014  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Rackster to your friends list
Awesome news Jeremy! I hope they can confirm.
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 Posted 03/09/2014  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
I really think you are jumping the gun on sending it in. You have experts on this forum. Some more knowledgeable than the people who you would send it into. I would get confirmation here first instead of wasting money getting in put in plastic. There is no reason why you can't get better pictures with a cell phone if you don't have a camera. I really hope it is a 1992. But you haven't given us what we need to tell ya its a 1992. What ever you decide good luck and I hope it works out for ya. Happy Hunting
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 Posted 03/09/2014  10:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeremy730 to your friends list
I tried getting photos through microscope with my phone it just wouldn't work, I will attempt better photo's in different lighting and post them as soon as I can..thanks for all the help on here :)
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 Posted 03/09/2014  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeremy730 to your friends list


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 Posted 03/09/2014  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeremy730 to your friends list
I apologize this is the best I can do with a I phone 5 and x's 10 loop however I changed phone to black and white settings and it helped clear it up in my opinion, definitely looks 92, any other opinion? Anybody know where I can take it to get better photo's? It's all kind of errors on this coin, its double struck in the collar I think, it has a small Cud in the collar, its Struck Through Grease its a 1992 Close AM variety I strongly believe,it has die chatter or some type of doubling like Lincolns whole head and the whole coin is like shifted or something it's just a really weird coin we can all agree on that..lol..so with black and white photos it still appears to be a 2 you really don't even need a loop if.you twerk it in the light and look closely it looks like a.2 what's everyones opinion with new pics, I can't go straight on it blocks the light so I apologize for that but I believe it.is what it appears to be, under a microscope there is no doubt its a 2 I tried really hard to get a pic through it but it just wouldn't work...opinions anyone ?
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 Posted 03/10/2014  05:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joey to your friends list
Jeremy, I hope I can help. I was going to post this later but thought maybe if I shared some edit pictures with you I might help both of us.

I didn't see pictures of reverse FG which I thought would be a normal request on this Variety. I am surprised nobody suggested Or requested it.

I have learned here from all these good people who help here are certain Ways if being or sure. Angles, techniques & places to look so on. and 1 that I feel pretty confident about is the FG area.

There's is the Pic with Coppercoins I'm pretty sure. if not I'm sure someplace else what I saw, which point it out just below the memorial & FG. an area which I could never figure out what was foR. but now I think I do.

This area just below above the T to the right flow memorial corner is an activity wish I think I can positively identify the CAM. after studying for a few days I've come to this.
conclusion.

Take a good pic starting from the from between one and Cent point up towards FS and CA in America. besides noticing position of fG there is activity running to the plans it background which positively identifies CAM. hint hint running underneath from above FG down through the T in cent. if it's there because it is magnifying glass and should invite you get miss it can't miss it's meeting.to take a look 2 men a fire or take a picture sometimes it's even better and use a filter and it is so my pictures. so I to you guys too 8 over editing and filter using on pictures but I feel it helps sometimes to expose what the Eye needs to see. Good luck and wish me luck I'm on a couple post because theY could be big ones as you can see. I hope this helps and don't forget the hairline is always a good place.

JOEY. ( ebay)- J*Lalley1 soon to return please visit

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 Posted 03/10/2014  08:34 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
Joey-you have a lot of good points in that last post. How ever we already know that it is indeed a CAM. The question is what year? 1992 or 1993 or...
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 Posted 03/10/2014  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jayman931 to your friends list
Jeremy- You are getting better at your pictures. I can tell you are working hard on this coin. I really hope it is a 1992. I have one more request. I am 50/50 on this coin. You would think by now we would have positively ruled out a 1993 but we haven't been able to which is good. Can you get one more clear picture. From exactly straight above it. No angle at all. Straight on clear pic of the entire coin. If you can get a good one we will know for sure I suspect. Thanks for the hard work and good luck!
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 Posted 03/10/2014  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
Your new B/W pics. can pretty much confirm it now.
Look at Coops pics. The beard and bowtie show 1993
I can also see the 3 pretty clearly now. Keep looking though.
I know I do.
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 Posted 03/10/2014  10:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add onecent1909 to your friends list
HI... Jeremy... are there any markers on the REVERSE of your coin?
There was only 1 Close AM die used at the Philly mint in 1992....IF this is a 1992 Close AM then the markings ( die scratches,dents,gouges,cracks, etc) would be the same....
I have a 1992 D Close AM and Wexler only has marker for the Denver coin.IF you see a marker on the reverse of your coin... send an E-MAIL to NGC, and PCGS... Asking them If they know of any markers for the reverse of a 1992 P Close AM.I would then contact Mr. Wexler and see if he would examine it.... His examination fee would be cheaper than a certification fee, your coin and name would be listed on his website... and IF it is a CLAM(I say CLAM you say CAM...same thing) you can then send it to a certification company of your choice with complete confidence... I do not know where I lean at this time....GOOD LUCK...
John
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03/10/2014 10:55 pm
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 Posted 03/12/2014  12:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jeremy730 to your friends list
Well I'm kind of in the air with it now, I see what your seeing, I think, 3's don't curve up like that do they? Don't they have a long trailing hook on bottom, under a microscope it looks like a 2 I think that may just be smeared grease I want see it with my loop its just the coloring or shade or something, I'll check it out tonight and post new pics
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