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Pillar of the Community
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I'm not taking sides on this interesting issue but
it does bring up one of my favorite debates.
The ever present question of ethics. A question/debate/argument which I've attended
seminars on, listened to speeches, read books and articles, to many water cooler discussions.
I love the question of ethics. (FYI- I'm a hunter and in the medical occupation, minefields of ethical debate)
Many people subscribe to the simple lowest denominator, if it's legal it's ethical, therefore
returning this coin is warranted, because it is within the rules. For many that is end of story.
I suspect sellers will not see it the same way but business is business and business always takes
'is it legal' as it's end point.
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Pillar of the Community
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 , I agree, this is an interesting debate. The best part in my book is the civility in which it is being conducted. |
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When a seller demonstrates high ethical standards by offering a liberal return policy, it's not really fair to that seller to treat his sales as an approval service.
I'm just saying...
-Duncan
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Pillar of the Community
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Hmm...I've read the same thread but I guess I've taken away something different about it. Yes. Yes, you have. Quote:
For all of you saying this is the sellers issue, do NOT ever buy from me. I do NOT want your business.
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You bid, you made a gamble and that gamble didn't pay off. The seller did nothing wrong and shouldn't be forced to refund you for your mistake. The return policy should only be used if the item was not as described, not just because someone changes their mind or took a gamble and it didn't pay off. As others have said, you wouldn't have send extra money if it was a 1916D. This statement wins! Thread over.  Edited by Darth Morgan
03/14/2014 10:54 am
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We'll decide when the thread's over, thank you very much.  With that said, I do believe the dogpile has become tall enough - the point has been made.
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I do believe the dogpile has become tall enough
 I'd love the OPs POV still, we have not heard from that party and after reading, as Kelly pointed out, this very civilized and healthy conversation, I wonder if the OP, partisan involvement aside, agrees or disagrees in retrospect. |
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We'll decide when the thread's over, thank you very much.
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I see nobody has bothered to bring up the points I discussed. Greater risk, greater reward, but sometimes you get burned. Let this be a lesson to sellers.
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I was sure it was an S. As for returning it, go for it. It is the sellers problem. If they do not want items returned, then they can make their listings no returns accepted. This item undoubtedly fetched a premium because returns were accepted, so the tradeoff for that higher realized price is a risk of a return. The seller made a conscious decision to go that route, and the buyer has full right to return it if they wish.
I see nobody has bothered to bring up the points I discussed. Greater risk, greater reward, but sometimes you get burned. Let this be a lesson to sellers. You asked so I'll respond. I can't speak for the seller in this case so this is totally my point of view. I accept returns because it's the right thing to do, it makes customers happy, & most importantly there are limited circumstances where a return is justified(damage, mistake on my end,etc). I also post clear pictures that show ALL of the items attributes & flaws. In other words I do everything in my power to avoid having an item returned. Will I accept a return of an item that is exactly as described & pictured? Yes. Am I of the opinion that people that return items for no good reason are inconsiderate at best? Yes. The only lesson I see here is that some buyers believe a reasonable return policy is justification for wasting the sellers time & money. |
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Will I accept a return of an item that is exactly as described & pictured? Yes. And here is where I vehemently disagree. I have been a retail manager for many years now. This is my profession after having retired from the fire dept. And the customer is NOT always right. Not by a LOOOOONG shot. And this is a perfect example of that. If I sell you an item, it arrives promptly, is EXACTLY what I described and pictured, then there is NO reason I should be forced to accept a return of that item. You as the customer have responsibility in YOUR decision to purchase. I, as a seller, have held up my end of the deal by giving an accurate presentation of the item. Hold up YOUR end of the deal. To do otherwise is, in my estimation, unethical and wrong. I really am disheartened to see anyone at all on this board supporting something like this. That's my final say on this. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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So let's say you are a seller, and you accept returns. Do you get to decide for the buyer their own criteria for a return? And what happens when the buyer has a higher standard for photographs and ultimately appearance in-hand than the seller? Nobody photographs coin rims, do they? There's always a distinct possibility someone else has higher standards. Now I'm sure this doesn't apply to anyone here, but personally I'm very hesitant whenever a coin dealer acts like their in total control of the transaction--ie no consideration, period. They seem to forget the top dealers out there stand behind their coins to the point where offer a review period, accept returns for any reason, or even offer to buy back a coin at a later date. To me, that's a standard of business to aspire to.  But I still know others will disagree--that's ok. Edited by DVCollector
03/14/2014 6:36 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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This is all actually off topic to a certain degree it's on-topic regarding ebay purchases and returns it's off-topic in this thread because the issue here is very specific has nothing to do with anything other than a conscious decision to gamble, winding up on the losing end of that sick and trying to cry foul give me a refund as a result that is not cool |
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Bedrock of the Community
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This is all actually off topic to a certain degree Yeah--my apologies for my part in hijacking the thread. |
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Pillar of the Community
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Yeah this thread has become entirely off topic, discussions frequently do.
Smokeriderdon: upon reading my post I hope you don't think that I believe business practices are ethical
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I'm thinking we're done here.
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