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1836 Capped Bust Quarter, Opinions On Toning

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 Posted 03/28/2014  07:28 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list
I like it. I'd be interested to see what it looks like in 5 years.
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 Posted 03/28/2014  07:41 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
Generally in silver/copper alloys Cu is about 5%. Along with Ag (generally blue) it gives you various rainbow colors. If you buy a coin which has been dipped - not brushed (hairlines) you can stick it in an oven say at 400*F and let the copper tone QUICKLY - bringing back some ORIGINAL color.

Here is my merry-go-round response to your question.

Its personal ...

Initially, bare Cu metal atoms react with air to form the pink oxide, cuprite, Cu2O, which has Cu+1 cations. This gradually oxidizes further to the black oxide, tenorite, CuO, with Cu+2 ions. The black sulfide CuS also sometimes forms. In the presence of moisture, the blackish layer slowly reacts with sulfur dioxide and carbon dioxide from the air to eventually form the patina, which is a mixture of 3 minerals:
brochantite, a green, hydrated copper sulfate, Cu4SO4(OH)6

malachite, the green, hydrated copper carbonate Cu2CO3(OH)2

azurite, the blue, hydrated copper carbonate Cu3(CO3)2(OH)2
In these compounds, copper atoms from the metal surface have been fully oxidized into Cu+2 (cupric) ions. The rate of patina formation and the proportion of the components depend upon humidity and handling.

It does bother me when collectors tell me I only like WHITE. Never been to New Orleans in a TIME MACHINE in the 1800's and view the top coin in a Morgan dollar bank roll out of the bank?

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 Posted 03/28/2014  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mailman28 to your friends list
I like as well
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 Posted 03/28/2014  09:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Paul Bulgerin to your friends list
Just curious from a guy still learning US coins - How does toning like this indicate that a coin has been previously cleaned?

By the way, I like the toning.
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 Posted 03/28/2014  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list
I'm a toning fan, so of course I love it. Given the high grade of the coin, I would feel better about it if there was luster beneath the toning; which would give me more confidence that the toning was not generated from a prior cleaning.
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 Posted 03/28/2014  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
Yes ... toning ... PLUS ... the cartwheel effect ... not LUSTER.
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 Posted 03/28/2014  4:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jprine to your friends list
Very nice! I love the toning.
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 Posted 03/28/2014  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add NathanASE to your friends list
Very nice! Personally I love it!
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 Posted 03/28/2014  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wiggam007 to your friends list
Regardless of if it was an old cleaning or not I would jump on this coin for my type set. I think it would fit in well.
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 Posted 03/28/2014  4:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobbymeru to your friends list
I like the look of this one
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 Posted 03/28/2014  4:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AlbumAccumulator to your friends list
Very Nice!
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 Posted 03/28/2014  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCollector2012 to your friends list
I like it!
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 Posted 03/28/2014  6:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jayman1970 to your friends list
Thanks for all of the responses. I am not sure if this one is AT or not, but I guess it's MA, It's in problem free PCGS holder. Thanks again for all of your input.
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 Posted 03/28/2014  6:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add noD to your friends list
I'd love to have it in my collection!
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 Posted 03/29/2014  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add vanbroj to your friends list
I like it as well !
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