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 Posted 07/26/2007  2:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TimJing to your friends list
What type of coins tone best in a potato? Silver?
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 Posted 07/28/2007  08:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 50cents to your friends list
This technique is called "Album Toning" and will take anywhere between 5 to 20+ years. I've only done silver coins and have no idea about copper.

1) Buy you a National Coin Album or pages (Wayte Raymond).http://www.meghrigsupplies.com/WAYT...BOARDS.html?

2) Insert coins and enjoy the hobby.

3)No need to check everyday for this type of toning will take time. Coins put into the pages will grade at the TPG's and they're consider NT.

Examples:
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 Posted 07/28/2007  09:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list
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I am not a big fan of moderns but, your Walking 1/2s are incredible! Especially the 1941 reverse/avatar.

Your "album toning" method is pretty ingenious and the results appear as if they are NT. I wonder why more collectors do not utilize this technique?
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 Posted 07/28/2007  09:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list

"What type of coins tone best in a potato?"
The type with lots of sour cream and chives.
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 Posted 07/28/2007  10:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sllyonsjr421 to your friends list
Benji, I think the reason more people dont utilize the album toning method is that they dont have the patience to wait 5-20 years for it to tone. I know I wouldnt have the patience to do that. But personally I am mostly into lincolns and prefer the more maroon colored coins. Not quite the bright day they were minted almost orangey red but not brown either. I think patience has alot to do with why people look for ways to tone their coins quickly to look like the naturally toned coins.
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 Posted 07/29/2007  12:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add docsfishn to your friends list
I think I'll have to start looking harder for some silver before I eat my hash browns in the morning...
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 Posted 07/29/2007  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
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Your "album toning" method is pretty ingenious and the results appear as if they are NT. I wonder why more collectors do not utilize this technique?


When you see the term, "album toning" in an auction, and you will, a Wayte Raymond album is probably the cause of the toning, and the reason the term exists. Wayte Raymond album toning is the prototypical "natural" toning.
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 Posted 07/29/2007  04:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chevrolet454ss to your friends list
On an old set 09 Thur 40 pennies that I bought recently that was Ruined since they had green spots all over them. In-tire set was junk coins. I dipped them in vat murtric acid that pool cleaners use. The green went away but coins turned an strange yellow looking coin. I was unhappy with them and wanted turn them back brown again. I try ed lots stuff but it seemed it don't work on what I tryed.

1. I put coins in an oven and backed them inside an potato for serval hours.
It did not work. I tried to burn them for serval hours.
2. I took them again and tryed burn them with an propane torch for an little
while. I even dumped them in oil and tryed to burn the oil and coins at same time. It did not work.
3. I even bought that new stuff on ebay called coin tastic? It yellow stuff you smear all over coins with q tips. It turned them black but black stuff will come off of them when clean it with soap and water or rub with fingers. It was 6 buck rip off.
4. I even tryed painting them with wood stain but that was an waste of time.

I am to point I give up on trying tone them back to brown. I may try one last time to put them an box and just burn them for serval days when I burn down serval trees that fell down at my land. I may try to put in oil box and let them burn for serval days to try again.

All I can tell you on copper coins you will spend forever trying to change them back to brown. Maybe you can do good on silver coins but coppers are no fun for sure. I guess the rest of my set is stuck with green spots on them. I wish I knew an way for green spots to leave the coins. But intill then I am stuck with an Ruined coins with green spots on my junk set.

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 Posted 07/29/2007  04:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Benji to your friends list
Any copper mixed with an acid will yield horrific results.
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 Posted 07/29/2007  06:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
I'm going to buy that artificial toner from ebay. I'm considering practicing on some coins, and if I get it down tone an MS Morgan common date. Then send it in to PCGS to see if they grade it. Can you imagine if it comes back graded?

If I do this I'll share the results, and photograph the before, after, and (God help us) after being slabbed pictures. Oh, the controversy.
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 Posted 07/29/2007  06:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
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being stuck in the middle of a potato and baked in the oven.


Get some more zinc in your diet? It's good for your skin.
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 Posted 07/30/2007  08:25 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
If you want to turn a Copper coin back to a darker brownish color, don't waste your time with junk on ebay. Just go to Walmart, Kmart of any sporting goods store where they sell gun blueing solutions. I've turned many coins into what almost looks natural brownish toning as if it was from just years of age. Some brands work better than others but I've had fabulous results from the brand from Walmart.
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 Posted 07/30/2007  08:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 50cents to your friends list
The toning juice that is sold on ebay don't look that great. I have kept some pictures of ebay transactions over the last year. I don't think you would fool PCGS with this. I really think that things like this hurt this hobby and the new collectors.
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 Posted 07/30/2007  10:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add greyhav to your friends list

"...5-20 years".
Could that be like: a cold takes 7 days to go away, but if you take this medicine it will go away in about a week?

As long as there is some exposure to some air (i.e. not completely airtight and air-excluded), won't all silver tone in 5-20 years?
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 Posted 07/30/2007  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 50cents to your friends list
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As long as there is some exposure to some air (i.e. not completely airtight and air-excluded), won't all silver tone in 5-20 years?


Looking at some of the coins for sale I would say some coins never toned or they have help staying white
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