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 Posted 07/28/2007  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
Thanks for taking the time to make this post. I hope everyone takes the time to read this.
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 Posted 07/28/2007  6:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
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Interesting read. What made you write it?


He wrote it because it seems like the majority of people to whom those words deserve to be addressed are in his specialty. Coppercoins has to be the bearer of bad tidings concerning rarity/value more than anyone else in this forum, and he gets the least respect while doing so.

Sometimes I wish I could find him a cluebat that worked over TCP/IP.
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 Posted 07/28/2007  6:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list
Just-Because-You-Saw-It-On-Ebay...
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Sometimes I wish I could find him a cluebat that worked over TCP/IP
Is that anything like the grammarbat?
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 Posted 07/29/2007  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list
There are many with a great amount of knowledge, and there are those who lack the same knowledge. When one tries to combine the two, there comes out a person with a great respect for the one who took the time to assist, or one that is TOO HARD-HEADED to see the merit in what was said.
There are those who will take offense at the way Chuck expresses himself. I feel very sorry for these folks, because they lost a great chance to learn from one who has MY respect, and appreciation for his help, in many areas, not just collecting! Pardon my "ranting, and raving", but I don't like to see a man with Chucks talents, and abilities slighted as has been done in the past!
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 Posted 07/29/2007  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike to your friends list
Great read coppercoins. Thank you for taking the time to write and post it. You are dead on with your statements. I wish people would learn to use the word "rare" more judiciously. Many people walk away from this great hobby because they have been burned. Education, education education! And as you have pointed out repeatedly, when you solicit advice from a pro, stop arguing and heed the advice given. That is teaching and learning in action. We are lucky to have someone with your expertise and patience on this forum Mike
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 Posted 07/29/2007  5:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ken_3567 to your friends list
Bravo coppercoins! Your story also applies to the hobby as hole with folks cleaning, altering, plating, etc... It's truly sad to see folks turned off to the hobby.

Unfortunately, folks like yourself have to be the bad guy to tell them the truth with some listening, others disbelieving, and others left with a feeling of being violated from being robbed. As smart as folks have become it's incredible how naive their trust in the web has become.
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 Posted 07/29/2007  6:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hunter20ga to your friends list
Couldn't agree more, Coppercoins. Thank you for posting that. I'm not sure exactly why you chose to post this now, but have a good guess just which straw broke the camel's back on this one.
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 Posted 07/29/2007  11:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
back for a moment...

There was no one specific thing that had me post this thread. I posted it beause of a number of incidents I can remember, here included, where people are trying to get their experience and knowledge by watching ebay auctions, and that's simply not the place to learn. I have also seen a number of times where different people have posted something to the effect of, "well, it's probably not worth anything, but I could sell it on ebay." Well, probably yes...but it's not ethically correct unless you run the auction to state, "this coin isn't worth anything because it's not an error coin at all - it's a damaged coin, but I thought it was neat and had money to blow on auction fees, so bid accordingly."
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 Posted 07/29/2007  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add garylcsr to your friends list

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"this coin isn't worth anything because it's not an error coin at all - it's a damaged coin, but I thought it was neat and had money to blow on auction fees, so bid accordingly."


you know Chuck I have seen these exact words on ebays auctions that have hit the hundreds of dollar mark? lol funny but I have seen it.
and thanks for this post. it is about time I just hope that it gets to the folks that need to hear it.
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 Posted 07/30/2007  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amac44 to your friends list
Well said CC
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 Posted 07/30/2007  1:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Vaslin to your friends list
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 Posted 07/31/2007  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ziggy9 to your friends list
A large percentage of what I know about errors is due to the postings of Mr. Daughtrey, both on this site and his own. It has caused me to go back through coins put aside at an earlier time and free many of them from their 2x2's and back into circulation. His postings have also helped me to find real errors that I would have not even known to look for otherwise, and for this I thank him.
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 Posted 08/03/2007  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
Hi Charles,

GREAT POST!

Bill
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 Posted 08/05/2007  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coppercoins to your friends list
I appreciate the messages of support, and know that the majority would agree. It's the minority of hard-headed people who don't learn, don't want to learn, and think they are the lucky ones to find a valuable error in every pocketful of change who are the ones I direct these statements toward. Either the lucky ones or they know they aren't finding anything of value and are just picking out the most messed up coin they can find and calling it an error, whether it is or not. Some people tend to skip the part about WHY valuable errors are valuable...it's because they are rare and very seldom show up anywhere. People can look through hundreds of thousands of coins before finding a single valuable error. The minor little marks and dings you find in every pocketful of change aren't valuable and probably aren't even errors either. There are a certain amount of cracks, smudges, and other imperfections that are tolerable in any high speed process involving mostly machines...including coin making. Valuable errors don't take a 15X microscope to see. Sooner people figure all this out the better off they are.

Welcome to the forum Bill. Your knowledge will add good value here.
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 Posted 08/05/2007  11:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
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There are a certain amount of cracks, smudges, and other imperfections that are tolerable in any high speed process involving mostly machines...including coin making.


That statement should be in Size 6 Bold at the top of every page in this forum.
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