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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Make sure you have a descant of some sort to avoid moisture problems.
That said I keep my valuables in Sentry Fire Safes.
According to what is said online they are Fire Resistant but not so much theft resistant and can be cut open with a circular saw and if you have a new digital keypad you can swap them out.
That being said your house is also not safe due to a bump key either unless you have a $150 dual angle door knob but your windows are still glass so it doesn't really matter.
If someone wants what you own they will find a way to take it.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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I always say hide your valuables in plain sight, disguised as something else or inside a cheap object. Safes are for show, as decoys, so put dummy valuables in your safe or lead shot to weight it down. One crowbar to the exposed hinge and your stuff is gone. That's my take on that.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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That's one take on it. I disagree but to each his own.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1247 Posts |
You can buy fire and waterproof safes at your local Sams club.
If you want to prevent moisture buildup.. stick them in a zip lock bag with one or two folded paper towels, and moisture in the bag will got to the towels. It's cheap and very effective. Some people I know have used rice instead of a paper towel, rice will absorb a ton of moisture. It's water and fire proof so no insects..
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Two weeks ago I purchased a small safe from Home Depot. They have a good selection. Used my Capital One points to get a $50 Home Depot gift card, and saved 10% by opening a credit card account with Home Depot. Total cost was about $100, and the safe has a fire and water rating. I will be bolting it to the floor. As a bit of a decoy I turned the box it came in inside out, and put it right back on top of it in the closet. Will be writing on the box, "For GOODWILL, head lice and old flea infested clothing." Probably not much of a deterrent, but better than nothing. I feel my "stuff" is safer than it was without the safe.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
12845 Posts |
The big box home improvement and sports equipment stores are a decent place to get a reasonably-priced safe if you want to lock up your .22 long gun and keep your kids from getting at your Playboy stash. However they aren't much for theft deterrent or fire protection (relatively).
Bolting them down, as edweather said, is very important and increases their theft protective value substantially. Most thieves would prefer to roll your safe out and crack it on their own turf rather than hack at it in your house while the cops are on their way.
Consider what the value is of what you're trying to protect. Then do your research and spend the appropriate money. Think of it like auto insurance. No one likes to pay it but it's part of driving a car. And you typically tailor your insurance to what you're willing to pay vs what you're willing to lose. Similar with a safe but in a one-time payment. Also, layer your protection. Get a security system if you're going to have a safe. Yes it takes the cops a while to show up sometimes, but if your safe is bolted down and has a good T rating, it's likely that it'll still be locked and standing when the cops get there and chase the idiots off (or hopefully arrest them).
Also, you may be better off taking advantage of a free bank safe deposit box that comes with many checking accounts if your stash is relatively small. Or even if you have to pay $20/month for a bigger box, how long would that take to pay for a $2000 safe? Answer: 100 months. That's a long time. And you'll likely move at least once in 8 years.
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Valued Member
United States
352 Posts |
moving a safe is not as hard as the stories you hear I bought my safe..16 gun safe I picked it up in a van...they loaded it when I got home I pulled the van up to the steps going into the house..i used a 2x12 as a ramp from van to porch drug, pushed the safe along/up the board onto the porch then I stood it up, put a dolly under it..strapped it to the dolly rolled it into the walk in closet I bolted it to the framing of the house..installed a clothes rod above the safe..hung clothes on the rod the dirty clothes hamper sits in front of it on the floor..you can not see it.. i did not need help,,,or to hire it out.. another bit of advice on a fire proof safe it is insulated, your valuables are safe inside during a fire..IF....after the fire...do not open the safe till all cools down it needs to get acclimated . if door opens before then all will perish thats what the pamphlet says
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Pillar of the Community
United States
7627 Posts |
Your home safe is in place to prevent the amateurs from getting at your stuff. It will stop the neighborhood kids, the nosy ex wife and may save your stuff from a fire.
The professional is a whole other story. If the professional wants your stuff he will get it. You may slow him down but he'll eventually get in to it. You may even be more than happy to open it for him, too.
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Valued Member
United States
66 Posts |
It is like a burglar alarm. The statistics state that just having the sign out front discourages the majority of thieves. If you want to discourage the Danny Ocean gang you will have to think a lot bigger.
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Valued Member
United States
118 Posts |
I keep mine with my guns. Lots of moisture absorption products and such. Half the safe is guns, the other half coins. They never mix.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
12845 Posts |
*bump*
Rollsearcher, you've not mentioned what you decided to do (which may be part of your maximum security plan). If not part of your security plan, I'd like to hear what you ended up with.
Lots of good advice here. Hope it helped.
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Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
As to moisture, everything above is correct but also: open it now and then!
The biggest deterrent to the casual thief is weight - they probably aren't going to try to force open your safe there, but if they can easily carry it away, they probably will. So if it weighs under 400 lbs and you don't have it full, fill it up with metal so that it is as heavy as you can get it. Obviously there really is no absolutely safe weight - two men and a fork truck can move an amazing amount - but the heavier, the better. It's a curve that works in your favor for every added pound.
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Valued Member
United States
352 Posts |
most safes are able to bolt to the floor and or wall you have to open it to remove bolts house burglers are not smart i thief is looking to get in..grab what he can and get out he is not a professional will not have power tools with him most crooks do not possess the knowledge to open a safe
bolt it to the floor, be happy
Edited by frodo 05/29/2014 08:39 am
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Valued Member
United States
58 Posts |
Quote: most safes are able to bolt to the floor and or wall you have to open it to remove bolts Or they rip the bolts right out.. But yes, any obstacle buys time and passing time makes them nervous. I leave a big jar of change in plain site. It probably comes to less than $100 but it looks impressive and of course if this really was a snatch and bolt, it's somewhat heavy and cumbersome, making it harder to carry more of other things. Cash is very attractive because it doesn't need to be fenced. It might not work, but it's worth leaving out, I think.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
840 Posts |
Some have mentioned safe deposit boxes at a bank instead of a safe at your house. Consider the fact if the US financial markets tank the banks will not allow anyone to access their safe deposit box.
I am shopping for a safe at the moment. It will hold both my guns and my coins as well as some other misc valuables and documents. I plan to bolt bolt the safe to the concrete floor in my garage, and conceal it with "normal" garage stuff so it is out of sight and not an attractant to a would-be thief.
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