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Future Of Clad Quarters 65-98

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 Posted 06/17/2014  8:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add junior e to your friends list
I love the beautiful Silver Washingtons, and I agree that the first several years of clad quarters were still beautiful coins when mint. The new Silver Proof Quarters are beautiful IMHO. I think that a Dansco from 32-73 or so would be a dream set to me, and I think the mid to late 60's hold their own if really in high grade.
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 Posted 06/17/2014  10:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
Governments have always created inflation because they can use the deterioration of the currency to fund their pet projects and boondoggles. This used to take the form of debasing silver coins on a regular basis. Recalling silver was a waste of time because people knew their 1 ounce Peso would be converted into a half ounce Peso and they'd be out half an ounce of silver. But with high mintage modern coins people have no real reason to hang onto them. If they don't turn in their aluminum peso for 10 New Centavos they'll be out 10c so they trade them in. The government collects thousands of ton of metal and sells it for scrap.

There used to be a freightor that sailed continuously from South American ports to Japan. It would bring new Toyotas for Bogota and sail back to Japan full of coins to make more cars and refrigerators. This has been going on since about 1950 with modern coins. Mintages are huge and attrition is staggering. It is quite likely to happen to US coins as well. The 1965 quarter is worth about 3c now and even if inflation doesn't pick up probably won't be worth more than .3c by 2050. But the many tons of quarters in circulation will have substantial value and be easy to collect and sell.

Fortunately numismatic coins don't derive their value from metallic value. Collectors are far more concerned with history, aestetics, and importance than with the value of the aluminum, silver, or gold in the coin. Clad quarters span one of the most important eras of human history from manned space flight to the creation of the internet. They are extremely attractive coins when well made and evenly worn though this is hardly tyical for them. I believe they have a lot going for them not only in the short term but the long term as well. I hope collectors remove the scarcities before they are worn out or destroyed but que sera, sera.
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 Posted 06/17/2014  10:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
...And thanks for the congratulations.

I'm very proud to have been allowed to make 1000 posts. (or 1002 for that matter)
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 Posted 06/18/2014  4:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whit3 to your friends list
I've been coin roll hunting with my kids for the last couple of months, and I've been pulling out the low mintage late 60s and early 70s quarters. I don't know if they're going to be valuable one day or not....
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 Posted 06/18/2014  5:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list

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I've been coin roll hunting with my kids for the last couple of months, and I've been pulling out the low mintage late 60s and early 70s quarters. I don't know if they're going to be valuable one day or not....


It sounds like a lot of fun.

I doubt the typical coins will have much value because they'll still be available for a long time. While there aren't many per roll that are alot of rolls out there.

But the nice choice well made coins in nice F or better are disappearing faster and faster as coins are lost and the survivors continue to wear or suffer catastrophic events like being buried in the ground or exposed to sharp surfaces on coin rolling machines.

Of course these should be checked for rare varieties like type "b" reverses since these are of interest even in poor condition.

Nice collections can still be formed from pocket change and as long as this is true the series has a lot going for it. Even if everything gets worn done to G and VG it will still be challenging to put together attractive sets in nice VG/ F. It's an inexpensive set that's about perfect for collectors to get their feet wet in the hobby. It really offers about everything with 50 years and four distinct series and the bicentennial coins in it. A lot can be learned from a collection of these.

I don't think it would be too tough to put together a nice VF+ set in a couple years with a few varieties. Some of the XF's are getting very very tough. I don't know why but the '73 is one that seems to usually be a fright. The '69 is seldom seen but nice examples appear once in a while.

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 Posted 06/19/2014  11:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Socal SilverHunter to your friends list
I keep all 1965 quarters. They seem cool to me .
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 Posted 06/19/2014  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Finn235 to your friends list
I'll keep AU or better coins, but quarters are just too much money for me to ever really consider putting together a 1965-1998 collection just to have one.

And, given how available BU quarters are from mint sets, I can't really imagine a circulated clad quarter being worth more than $1.00 in my lifetime, unless of course it's a scarce or rare variety or error coin. We're just 4 years away from the 20th anniversary of the series' cancellation, and I would say that State Quarters only very recently overtook eagle quarters as the majority of circulating coins--if they even truly have as of 2014. I have no doubts that worn and abused quarters will be retired on a rolling basis, but I wouldn't be surprised if eagle quarters are still common when my kids are grown.
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 Posted 06/19/2014  12:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 1000_Rubles to your friends list
I put together a set of clad Washingtons and am currently working on the silver set from 32-64. Most of my clad coins from 65-98 are quite circulated, so hopefully one day I'll be able to replace them all with AU or BU examples. I have too many sets to work on now though so I'm stretched too thin to start upgrading my clad quarters...
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 Posted 06/19/2014  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add whit3 to your friends list
I'll use my definately unscientific method as an example. I've gone through roughly 2000 quarters since early/mid May. During that time, I've only found one or two of some of the late 60s and early 70s quarters that have low mintages. For example, I've found exactly 1 1971-P quarter out of all those quarters I've searched - the only reason I can remember it is that was the last one my daughter needed to complete her set, and my son needs as well.

I don't have any proof of this, but I suspect that some of those quarters of that vintage are harder to find than we realize.
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 Posted 06/20/2014  10:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WashQuartJesse to your friends list
Congratulations on your milestone Clad. I've learned so much from your posts. Thank you.
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 Posted 06/25/2014  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list
Thanks WashQaurtJesse.

I got an interesting assortment of quarters the other day as well. The most interesting thing was that the %age of states issue is the highest I've yet observed; 58%. This is primarily just a statistical fluke since the actual %age of post-'98 quarters is only about 54%. It's starting to increase rapidly though and locally higher concentrations might be seen as newer coins haven't mixed with the older ones well.

Another interesting thing about this 197 coin sample is that there were only 2 nice pre-'79 per roll on average. This is a little lower than the 2.2 I've been seeing.

There was nothing in the sample even close to being a contender for my collections except a few recently minted coins, one of which was quite gemmy. Of the 197 coins only two stand out as being truly collectable. One is a nice XF '72-D and the other is a superb well made and very attractive VF+ 1966. Despite its very high mintage the '66 quarter is becoming one of the tougher quarters in nice attractive high grade.

It's getting harder and harder to put together nice sets of clad quarters.
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 Posted 06/27/2014  12:20 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ghostrider to your friends list
Not trying to hijack the thread, but the numbers of '60, '70. and '80 quarters that you are seeing I am also seeing in dimes. The other interesting thing that I've noticed is the drop off of similiarly dated nickels are the same. The earlier ones are almost non-existant out there. No real statistical data, just an observation of mine.
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 Posted 06/27/2014  12:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list

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Not trying to hijack the thread, but the numbers of '60, '70. and '80 quarters that you are seeing I am also seeing in dimes. The other interesting thing that I've noticed is the drop off of similiarly dated nickels are the same. The earlier ones are almost non-existant out there. No real statistical data, just an observation of mine.


Yes.

I've been noticing it with dimes even more than quarters. Finding something like a nice well made '78-D dime in XF or better is getting really tough. Some of the older ones are even tougher.

Dime mintages are soaring again and have been high since the mid-'80's. The older dimes that haven't been lost yet are getting fewer and farther between.
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 Posted 06/27/2014  12:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cladking to your friends list

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Not trying to hijack the thread, but the numbers of '60, '70. and '80 quarters that you are seeing I am also seeing in dimes. The other interesting thing that I've noticed is the drop off of similiarly dated nickels are the same. The earlier ones are almost non-existant out there. No real statistical data, just an observation of mine.


Collectors seeking a series to collect with potential for increase might wellbe advised to choose clad dimes rather than quarters. Roosies have a lot going for them since all of these exist in Gem condition in quantities in the several thousands. There are some stoppers in the clad quarters and this will tend to deflect more people into the dimes. Also Roosies are easy to collect even if you go all the way back to include the silvers. chBU sets are very affordable and Gems will be doable. Quarters are even tougher in well struck Gem with the silvers since the '32 issues are as scarce as the '82/ '83 probably.

Dimes are a better collectible for young people and young people are the collectors of the future but, as Conder 101 often points out, they may no longer be so young.

Coins being common are by no means an impediment to high prices. The primary driver of coin prices is demand and the demand for dimes could be quite high. I did not foresee all the things that would occur over the last half century and didn't see that the dimes could even exceed the quarters in their potential due to the higher attrition and exploding production.

There are many millions of modern coin folders out there that are partially complete and in need of upgrading. As time goes by many of these will be completed and upgraded and this supply must come from coins that have been set aside since, excluding new issues, there are fewer collectible coins in circulation with each passing year. These coins are getting worn down, destroyed, and pulled out of circulation by collectors. The number of moderns set aside is far far lower than people imagine. It is a tiny fraction of the total number of modern sets that have been started.
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06/27/2014 1:00 pm
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 Posted 06/28/2014  5:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Erwindoc to your friends list
One of my favorite issues. I couldn't agree with clad king more about this series and the Roosevelts.
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