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Indian Head Cents: How Much Verdigris Is Too Much?

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 Posted 06/16/2014  6:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list
This amount does not really bother me too much. You find it all the time in slabbed coins, often much worse than this. That being said, I would still give it an acetone bath and maybe toothpick treatment in the problem areas.
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 Posted 06/16/2014  6:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dar to your friends list
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 Posted 06/16/2014  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kanga to your friends list
Verdigris is a chemical reaction.
It will continue unless you change the conditions around the coin.
And acetone won't help much removing verdigris.
Get that removing stuff (verd-i-care?)
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 Posted 06/16/2014  7:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
Avoid the verdi.
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 Posted 06/16/2014  7:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mcshilling to your friends list

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Avoid the verdi.


Why ?

Nothing wrong with verdicare, it was developed by one of our CCF members and it works.
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 Posted 06/16/2014  7:50 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Oh that's very minor. I would use my VC and not give it a second thought.
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 Posted 06/16/2014  8:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add peter1234 to your friends list
I wouldn't buy a green coin.
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 Posted 06/17/2014  09:41 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
my answer depends on the year of this coin, is it a more rare coin with few high grade examples? or is this a 1907 that is half the price because of the verdigris?
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 Posted 06/18/2014  11:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list
That little bit is nothing. Hit it with VC and there ya go.

peter, were you saying avoid verdigris, or avoid verdi care? Not really clear there.
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 Posted 06/18/2014  11:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add OcalaFlorida to your friends list
I used that VerdiCare stuff on over 30 Indian heads so far with a toothpick and it works pretty good ones with worse then this.
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 Posted 06/19/2014  09:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
I developed a new copper coin cleaner in the lab that is 10X better than the original Coin Care or Vedi-Care. Contact me privately if interested - it has worked pretty well on green oxidation build-up areas assuming its just on the surface and not to deep into the coin's surface. It will not change to copper coin's surface color. Acetone dries out a coin's surface leaving it White, Xylol is good put not as good as side by side testing with JPL Coin Care. Its $30 for a 2 oz. bottle. This includes P&H. After 60 customers - no negative reports. The only patina change is when you remove 200 year old soil the coin will have cleaner look but no metal change occurs in terms of color and appearance.

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 Posted 06/20/2014  09:03 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list

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I developed a new copper coin cleaner in the lab that is 10X better than the original Coin Care or Vedi-Care. Contact me privately if interested.


Can you post some results ? What do you call your coin cleaner ?
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 Posted 06/20/2014  11:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add smokeriderdon to your friends list

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Acetone dries out a coin's surface leaving it White,


No, no it does not. Pure acetone evaporates and leaves NO residue at all. Nor does it alter the composition of the metal. Not exactly sure how drying the surface of the coin would have any effect beyond removing moisture.
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 Posted 06/23/2014  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add colonialjohn to your friends list
I called my product JPL Coin Care. It was developed by myself - I sell it privately - most experienced copper collectors will tell you acetone dries out a coin's surface and at times leaves a mild white film which is why xylol is more of the GO TO material. After my Originial COIN CARE was expired I developed this product. I have mostly been selling it to experienced collectors of the C4/EAC organization.
I agree with the statement - "Nothing can really clean copper effectively." Until my product came out <BG>.
I am Chemist and have developed industrial cleaners ... there are other factors but these are private ... contact me privately. After 55 sales no one has requested there money back yet ... <BG>.

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 Posted 06/23/2014  12:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add johnny54321 to your friends list

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I developed a new copper coin cleaner in the lab that is 10X better than the original Coin Care or Vedi-Care.


10x better than verdicare? That is a pretty bold claim. Verdicare is very established and has a large following here on the forums. I think if you want folks to take you seriously, you should provide some before and after photos of coins that you have used it on....and maybe some comparisons of how verdicare works on similar coins.
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