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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm at VF35 maybe XF45 on a good day but no way AU58.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I have been upgrading my indian set, and I have to say that I agree that grading has been degraded(pun intended)lately. Sure, some of it could be due to weak strike, and if that is the case, I would expect a lot of cartwheel luster on that coin. I can't tell from the pics how much luster is visible, so I would just steer clear. NGC seems in general to be worse than PCGS on indians, especially earlier ones from the 60s and 70s. Personally, I would have given this coin a 40-45 given there is no luster as illustrated.
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Bedrock of the Community
United Kingdom
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I have some in this condition and have never considered them higher than VF - but then I'm English!
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Valued Member
United States
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I'm not much of an IH grader but I had this pegged at 45. I would think a weak strike contributed to some of it but don't know that it would account for the apparent wear of some of the finer details.
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Pillar of the Community
United Kingdom
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Maybe Centsles has got himself a part time job at NGC.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Im at VF35 maybe EF40 but nowhere near AU on this IHC. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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Pillar of the Community
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If that's 'AU' I can pretty much upgrade my entire Indian collection without changing out a single coin.
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Valued Member
 United States
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Maybe Centsles has got himself a part time job at NGC.  Poor strike or LDS could be a factor especially given that no diamonds appear at all. But the ribbon should still be separated. I personally would not buy this beyond a net VF20 or 25, which would take the striking characteristics into consideration. The coin sold for $33- ouch... |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wouldn't rule out a labeling error at the TPG. In fact, I've almost convinced myself this is the case. Now why anyone would submit this coin in the first place I can't understand. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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vf 35 is what my guess would have been
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Valued Member
United States
177 Posts |
It even looks lightly cleaned to me! NGC has been known to look the other way on coins cleaned long ago, to make the customer feel satisfaction with his submissions.
It is beyond me that this piece of junk got AU-58, I would agree that any points VF-25 through XF-40 would be fair.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Low EF - high VF. Everyone has a bad day. That's one of the reasons so many coins have their slabs cracked and sent back trying to garner a better grade than last time.
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Valued Member
United States
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If thats what NGC calls au58, I've got some ms67s for them!
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