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1883 Copper Hawaiin Half Dollar (Uncut)

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Bedrock of the Community
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 Posted 07/23/2014  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Wow...can you furnish a link? Why people would shell out good money for something unknown in the states...
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 Posted 07/23/2014  11:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Coinery to your friends list
As requested DVCollector,

Here are three links. As I said in my previous reply. I am not accusing anybody of forgery. I am only saying that it looks a bit suspicious.

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...fLoc=2&rt=nc

http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_...oc=2&_fspt=1

http://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ar-458245566
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 Posted 07/24/2014  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
Thanks for those links! This is the first time I've seen these, and I cannot find a single reference at the big auction house Heritage--which kind of underscores these are not actual trial pieces. Then there's this page describing forgeries. There's a lot of fakes of these Hawaiian coins out there, so these plate strikes could be spin-off from that?

That's just what I found so far--if anyone knows more, please chime in!
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 Posted 07/24/2014  12:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Coinery to your friends list
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 Posted 07/24/2014  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Coinery to your friends list
Just a bit of advanced warning about a link I provided earlier. Read this article first https://www.trustpilot.com/review/w...rthpoint.com
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 Posted 07/24/2014  12:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list

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What do you make of these coins?
I'm not an expert on US commems, but something looks "off" about those--maybe others will chime in?
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 Posted 07/24/2014  12:52 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amida17 to your friends list
Alibaba strikes again...... (20140630) Not Allowed - Auto-Removed/item/1883-HAWAII-HALF-DOLLAR-COPPER-COIN-COPY-FREE-SHIPPING/651312811.html

guess I can't link but go check aliexpress....
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07/24/2014 12:53 pm
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 Posted 07/24/2014  1:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
The 1924 Peace dollar for sale currently is fake. The 4 has a curved diagonal to it whereas an authentic one is straight.

The Cleveland half hair had way to many strands compared to an authentic one.

This seller was mentioned in this thread, https://goccf.com/t/182649

I'd avoid this seller just too many red flags and things that make me suspicious of any coin he/she is selling.
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07/24/2014 1:28 pm
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 Posted 07/24/2014  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Coinery to your friends list
Hi Meadowview Collector,

Thanks for your input. It is what I suspected but did not have the knowledge to be certain.

I think that simply avoiding this ebay seller is not the best solution because many other innocent people have already been stung for large amounts of money and will continue to be so. ebay need to be notified by a recognized numismatist about what is going on.

For the record I did not buy my coin plate from this website.
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 Posted 07/24/2014  9:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TrickyxMick to your friends list
Good info thanks everyone.
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 Posted 07/24/2014  11:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list

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eBay need to be notified by a recognized numismatist about what is going on.


It does little good to report it to ebay since they disbanded the CCW. This seller is slick doing short listing times for his sale. By the time ebay gets around to acting, the sales are over.

-MV
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 Posted 07/25/2014  12:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Coinery to your friends list
Hi MV,

There is truth in what you are saying. I imagine ebay is motivated by profit above all else.
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 Posted 07/25/2014  12:40 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Coinery to your friends list
Hi DV Collector

Here is an interesting web conversation about the Hawaiin 1/2 dollar strike plates.

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!t.../J6rnKlShedM
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 Posted 07/31/2014  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add The Coinery to your friends list
Interesting that the ebay seller of the 'hawaii half dollar testing strike plates' as well as other US 'rare' coins has now stopped trading and blocked public access to his feedback profile which has a number of negative comments.
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 Posted 09/04/2015  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DrDarryl to your friends list
In my opinion, I would avoid the item. I previously investigated the item. It can be readily purchased from China.

http://thehawaiiananumismatist.com/...attern-test/

Compare the design elements with an actual Kingdom of Hawaii coin and you will see the issue.
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