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Quote: During proof production, a chemical is applied to the die prior to the strike (to give it that mirror-like finish). Please post a link to that info,I would like to read up on it. John1 
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Rest in Peace
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Quote: I would like to read up on it. Me to.
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Me three! I really appreciate the info. I have been searching, but when you don't know what terms to query it makes it hard.
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Is that a crack or scratch in the plastic next to the memorial where "UNITED" starts. It's strange that the bright red starts from there.
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No scratch or break in the plastic. I'm on my way to get this looked at by a well educated numismatist. Ill post the answer he gives me. :)
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Edited by CopperCastle 07/24/2014 1:55 pm
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OK, I figured it out , the guy running the die machine had a drop of sweat to fall from the tip of his nose and land on the coin just before it was struck. see this was being done in august of that year.
Really - I have no idea
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The toning is a natural part of aging. Most likely it's due to the storage environment and the packaging materials. Gaseous substances like hydrogen sulfide react readily with metals to create a thin-film effect responsible for the color.
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Quote: During proof production, a chemical is applied to the die prior to the strike (to give it that mirror-like finish). The mirror finish comes from highly polished dies, not from any chemical. Also, in videos and such I've seen from the mint, they dry machine proof coins, there are no fluids involved in the stamping operation.
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I agree Thad, the mirrored section (the "field") is a result of the polished die. I misspoke when I referred to the mirror quality coming from the chemical, I meant the image itself. However I disagree about no chemical being used in the stamping process. The image portion of the die IS TREATED with acid to give the frosted appearance, as noted in the previous 2 articles.
Deep cameo's are a result of a newly used acid-treated coin die which gives more noticeable, frostier appearance. As the die is used over a longer period to strike a coin blank, the effect of the treated die fades which results to the less frosted look. Proof coins with images that do not have matte characteristics are not designated as cameo.
Edited by CopperCastle 07/25/2014 02:56 am
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Quote: However I disagree about no chemical being used in the stamping process. The image portion of the die IS TREATED with acid to give the frosted appearance, as noted in the previous 2 articles.
Acid is NOT used during the stamping operation. The die devices are "treated" with acid to give the frosted effect and then moved into production. No chemicals come into contact with the planchets during coining.
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As Thad said, the chemicals used to treat the die are long removed by the time they are placed in the presses.
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Thank you for clarifying Thad.  If I understand correctly, the chemical is applied pre-strike & then cleaned solely to give a portion of the die a rough texture. This effect is lessened as the die is used repeatedly, I assume due to the pressure of the contact with the planchet? This would make a great deal of sense as I've read previously that sandblasting was used in the past, presumably to achieve a similar result. I watched an informative video from the Discovery channel last night regarding the process @ what I assume is a Canadian facility. Very educational! I'll post that in a separate topic for others to enjoy. ( See it here)
Edited by CopperCastle 07/25/2014 12:10 pm
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