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Bedrock of the Community
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Try acetone first. If that doesn't work then dip. Acetone will have no effect on this coin. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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TPGs will realize your coin was dipped for sure. There are thousands of dipped coins in TPG holders. They can only tell if you don't do it properly. In this case, I'm starting to think those are carbon spots and not toning. Dipping may not work. Rather than take the chance, I'd probably sell it and buy a 65, if that's what you must have. Lincoln Cent Lover!VERDI-CARE™ INVENTOR https://verdi.care/
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Bedrock of the Community
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Wait a second, All I hear is DO NOT CLEAN COINS and you guy's are Telling him to DIP it? Keep in mind there is a huge difference between cleaning and conservation. If conservation is done properly, the result is a market acceptable coin. |
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Thanks for the replies. Thad, I take your point about carbon spotting. I had actually not considered that, I was thinking it is toning. I.will look at it hard with that in mind when I get back to my desk. Yes, I could buy a 65. But what fun is that? I believe I already have a 65 and now it is the principal of the thing. I carefully selected this one in an old ANACS holder because I believed it to be undergraded. Principals . . . . principals I say!! Junjun, Dar, the TPGs do seem to be somewhat forgiving with a light dip on silver, and as Brad said, if done properly and rinsed thoroughly they cannot know. Here is one that I did a dip on not too long ago, you might find it interesting: https://goccf.com/t/165558&whichpage=2 I have some time, it will be a while before I get another submission together (I just got this one back) so look forward to perhaps so more responses. And I will try to see if those are carbon spots or toning. Hmmmmm, I suppose I need to know how to do that. |
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Well, didn't take long to find that consensus (or at least it sounds right to me) is that "Carbon Spots" is somewhat of a misnomer. That carbon spots on silver is simply an advanced stage of toning.
Etched too deep to dip off.
Any disagreement?
Still have not looked at the coin in question. Will do that tonight.
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08/12/2014 11:35 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes, black toning is the final stage. At that point, the surfaces under the spots are toast. If you do remove them, you still have surface spots and it will look cleaned.
GOOD LUCK
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Pillar of the Community
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Thank you Brad, I am trying my best to eliminate luck from the equation. Though I believe your response to be sincere best wishes!  Edited by Jon K
08/13/2014 08:32 am
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Pillar of the Community
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And . . . . . those spots are scary. Very dark with sharp edges. Versus what I don't know, I don't have much to compare them to. Best blow up I can manage below. What say the gallery?  |
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Got plenty of time today . . . . I can compare with the aforementioned 35-S. This is interesting . . . . Before. Very similar, though perhaps not quite as dark. Scroll below for similar after pic.  After. Certainly there are ghosts where the marks were. Easily visible under 10-X eyeware. Though without the "before" photo perhaps not as obvious as to what the ghosts are. And yet it graded a 63. Thoughts?  |
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I agree with the above reply that if you MUST have an MS-65 that I'd sell this coin as it stands in the TPG holder and use the proceeds toward a pre-graded MS-65 coin. |
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Dipping won't help that coin. Get it CACed if you think it's a 65 and sell it.
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Pillar of the Community
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Well cra . . . . err . . . . well shoot. Brad, you started with the "carbon spots" and I believe you are right. Those are some dark spots. Looking at how the 35 did, I can't see that making a 65 coin.
I will pass this one to someone who needs a "64".
"needs" . . . . now isn't that an interesting term?
Though I really never considered CAC on a $100 piece. Hmmmmm . . . . thank you for that thought CTB.
But I get no enjoyment from simply buying a 65. Anyone with money can do that. I will find a raw piece, or perhaps an undergraded example such as I believe this one to be. I don't expect to win them all.
So thanks all for playing along, and helping me reach a decision.
This is where the fun is at!
By the way, does anyone else see a "65", or is it just me?
Jon
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I'm thinking its only going to be a 64 whether the black junk is gone or not. The nail in the coffin is the scratch on the eagles breast.
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will acetone have an affect on anything other than oils/grime? will it affect toning?
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Pillar of the Community
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Coindog, that is the problem with these CSI photos. Every little mark just SCREAMS (sorry) at the camera.
Under halogen light and 10X eyewear that mark is nearly invisible. It is nearly completely lost in the crosshatching of the breastfeathers.
No mistake, it is there, but unless you already know it is there, I would be surprised if anyone (including ol' eagle eye grader) would see it.
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08/16/2014 11:33 am
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