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Anyone Think 18/17 D

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 Posted 09/25/2014  12:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
Wow. The thrill of the hunt.

I'm going to await your detail images, but I can see your thinking here. Need the date, of course, including the designer's initial, and the mint mark, please.
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 Posted 09/25/2014  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list

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like, a date over another date? how can that even happen?


This is Numismatics 101. Dates are(were) punched into the die. Occasionally the need to use a previous-year die which originally went unused requires the new date to be repunched into it, and if they didn't properly obliterate the previous date digit, you get something tres cool like the 1918/7-D Buff.
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 Posted 09/25/2014  3:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
The lower loop of the 8 is interesting--hope it pans out!
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 Posted 09/25/2014  3:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list
Flat top. Fat waist on the 8 also most 18 d's the 19 is higher than the second 1 and 8. Lot of reasons to risk $32.00. I have a new partner and he agreed $50.00 each with grading and we own a $20.00 coin or a $2,000 coin plus once in hand I can return for $2.00. But I'm going for it. My 1887 DDO snow 1 indian is at ngc right now.sent to a buddy who e's pretty good and he says looks original on the 1887. Email rock Snow and he said hard to tell from pictures.
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 Posted 09/25/2014  5:12 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
If you return it after getting a closer look that's not gambling.
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 Posted 09/25/2014  6:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mikey07nj to your friends list
That's why I said I'm sending it in. I'm already convinced.
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 Posted 09/25/2014  8:17 pm  Show Profile   Check RK55's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add RK55 to your friends list
I am leaning towards over date. It appears to be a flat top 8 and It looks like you have the tilted D mint mark. I can't quite see it clearly but is there a die crack from the braided knot leading to the mouth?

good luck! Fingers crossed for you.
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 Posted 09/25/2014  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
My VG10 example mirrors that one. Text book flat top 8.
The D is leaning in the right direction too.

I too thought mine was when others did not. PCGS confirmed it even though it was plain as day when I had it in hand :-)
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 Posted 09/25/2014  9:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TypeCoin971793 to your friends list
I don't think so. The holes in the 8 are not the right shape.
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Here's an example. The D mint mark is tilted the wrong way.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1918-D-8-OV...em5669e8a65a
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 Posted 09/25/2014  11:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Mike1487 to your friends list
Nope, not a 1918/7. The loops of the 8 are vertical rather than offset.
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 Posted 09/26/2014  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
Post some good close up pics of the date when you get it.
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 Posted 09/26/2014  7:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add razorear to your friends list
I believe some of the wear is playing tricks with ours eyes, good luck with this.
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 Posted 09/30/2014  07:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TreasHunt to your friends list
Go for it, and good luck
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 Posted 09/30/2014  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list

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This is Numismatics 101. Dates are(were) punched into the die. Occasionally the need to use a previous-year die which originally went unused requires the new date to be repunched into it, and if they didn't properly obliterate the previous date digit, you get something tres cool like the 1918/7-D Buff.

Correct for early coins but not for the 18/7. After about 1907 a different method created the overdates. After 1907 the dates were in the master hubs. These hubs were impressed in to the die blanks to create dies. It would take two or more impressions of the hub into the blank to create the die. Between impressions the die would be heated and softened. In the case of the 18/7 the die was first impressed with a 1917 dated hub, but when it came back from being softened it was accidentally impressed with a 1918 dated hub.

So there was more than one way to create an overdate.

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