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My New 1909 VDB

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 Posted 08/28/2007  9:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
You gonna break it out? Looks nice!
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 Posted 08/28/2007  10:40 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
That is a nice VDB
I have a 64RD in an old PCGS rattler holder and it is still nice and red. It is one of my favorite coins since my wife purchased it for me as a total surprise and without any input from me. Not bad for someone who has limited knowledge of coins
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 Posted 08/28/2007  10:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
quote:
You gonna break it out?


Thanks, guys. If it's as nice as he says I'm going to submit it for a crossover to PCGS. On Heritage I'm seeing recent PCGS MS66 examples sell for high $300 or even $400 that are average for the grade.
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 Posted 08/29/2007  06:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grovey to your friends list
Why go thru the trouble of cracking it out paying the fes and hoping for a croosover. If the pcgs slab makes it worth the fees. There isn't that much of a difference in price.
It's a beautiful coin, It's in a TPG holder. I would just leave it. I have many NGC coins that are graded more accuratley than PCGS.

And...what if it comes back as a 65 or worse ?

Just food for thought.
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 Posted 08/29/2007  08:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Not to sound to negative but I think you should start looking into coin shows. I think that may be a nice coin but the photo sure is poor. I would never deal with someone with an almost impossilbe to see photo of a coin and in that price range. I also think it is a bit over priced. I've seen you really great deal on the 09S VDB but I think your getting carried away with internet purchases. One of two great deals does not a market make. Please look into some coin shows. Maybe where your at that is not possible, but I suggest you spend more time investigating prices, values, availability in coins. If the internet is your only source for coins, I would suggest you start a list of reputable on line dealers.
Just my opinion.
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 Posted 08/29/2007  09:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
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Why go thru the trouble of cracking it out paying the fes and hoping for a croosover.


PCGS offers a crossover service, where you send them a certified coin from a competitor and if they agree with the grade THEN they crack it out and reslab it. Otherwise they leave it in the original slab.
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 Posted 08/29/2007  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add grovey to your friends list
But it is in a TPG HOLDER.You are willing to pay the fees on a coin that may or may not crossover. If this were a key date or a rare coin that you thought had a good shot at a upgrade then fine. but your only talking about the POSSIBILITY of the sale of a coin in a PCGS SLAB..
Ex : if this were a 14d that was a 63 or 64 and thought it would make 65, the price difference is huge.

This is a true case of "buy the coin ,not the plastic"
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 Posted 08/29/2007  2:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
UAP

Its hard to tell from the pics of the coin ,,but the seller seems to have stood tall in his actions .

I know we will get better pictures of the coin once you get it !

I will be watching for them !

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 Posted 08/29/2007  3:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
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But it is in a TPG HOLDER.You are willing to pay the fees on a coin that may or may not crossover.


Yep. If the coin turns out to be as PQ as he claims (and he backed it), a small nominal fee for a good chance to be in a PCGS holder is well worth it. Aside from the fact PCGS MS66's are selling for way more than I paid, I much prefer the appearance of their holder over NGC.
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 Posted 08/29/2007  6:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Amazon99 to your friends list
The coin looks greats(at least from what I can tell from the pics). The coin probably is red if the seller is doing all of that. Post pics when you get it. Congrads!
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 Posted 08/29/2007  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
Carl has a good point, I picked this one up 2 weeks ago at a coin show for $55 (I think)

My-New-1909-VDB
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Edit: Just checked my records, I paid $40 for it.
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08/29/2007 8:39 pm
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 Posted 08/29/2007  8:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
chrsb, nice color and detail, slight toning started (high-end red & brown IMO). A little bit of spotting. I think you got a nice deal but I definitely wouldn't call it a 66 Red.
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 Posted 08/29/2007  8:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsb to your friends list
USArmy,

I was not comparing mine to the one you bought, I was just suggesting that people check out all the options in buying coins. I understand some people do not have coin shows every weekend like I do here. Some people do not even have an reputable coin dealer near them. It was not my intention to offend you on your purchase, I personally do not like it when people on the boards tell people they made an bad purchase unless they ask, I figure people should not post what they paid for something unless they are prepared for someone to jump in and say they got riped off or got a great deal. I guess thats all part of a public forum.
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 Posted 08/29/2007  10:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add USArmyParatrooper to your friends list
chrsb,

Oh, I didn't take offense. But I appreciate you clarifying. I was more or less making the point that in the MS realm price jumps from grade to grade can be enormous.

I've only been to one coin show but I would LOVE to go to more. I picked up a really nice PCGS large cent at the one I went to. To me coin shows are fantastic for the overall experience, and to browse around for coins. But if you have a very specific coin in mind, anytime and anywhere the internet is a God sent IMO. You don't know how many times I've called around to every dealer in town, "Do you have a certified MS blah-blah in stock? You do? Finally! You want how much? LOL ok thank you"

Edit: Gore sent
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08/29/2007 10:17 pm
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 Posted 08/30/2007  11:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
USArmy,

I was not comparing mine to the one you bought, I was just suggesting that people check out all the options in buying coins. I understand some people do not have coin shows every weekend like I do here. Some people do not even have an reputable coin dealer near them. It was not my intention to offend you on your purchase, I personally do not like it when people on the boards tell people they made an bad purchase unless they ask, I figure people should not post what they paid for something unless they are prepared for someone to jump in and say they got riped off or got a great deal. I guess thats all part of a public forum.

Sounds like what I would have said and for a minute I thought that was my reply. It is human nature though to always say I could have bog it cheaper. You could buy something worth a million dollars for $1 and someone would say My Uncle could have got that for 0.50. It's just human nature.
As to coin shows, fortunately we have at least 3/month around here. Occationally a few additional really big ones. What I like about the constant flow of coin shows is you get to know lots of dealers personally. I know on like you can find a lot of great deals and as pointed out, there are lots of the coins you are looking for. But at a coin show where you get to know the dealers they will look for a specific coin for you and at usually an amazing price. I was telling many of those dealers I needed a 1920D Lincoln in at least MS-63 or better. It took almost a year but two dealers came up with them and gave them to me free. One dealer continuously gives me Whitman Albums free. He said at the next show he will bring a box of them and let me have my pick.
USArmy you are doing pretty well but I just suggest you attempt to find some coin shows, frequent them, talk, talk, talk to dealers there so they get to know you. You may be amazed at what you can achive by this. Oh so many deals go to those that know someone.
It is sort of like the job market. It's seldom what you know, but who you know.
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