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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Sometimes I wonder if there aren't buyers that just want to "fill that empty hole" That empty hole should not even be in the album/folder because it technically is an error not a variety. There are laws that prohibit the alteration of coins for a profit. The difficult part is proving he is the one actually altering those cents. |
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New Zealand
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If ebay dont do anything, and being an offense, shouldn't it be reported to the police or appropriate authority |
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United States
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That empty hole should not even be in the album/folder because it technically is an error not a variety.
There are laws that prohibit the alteration of coins for a profit. The difficult part is proving he is the one actually altering those cents. I know right? Why is the 22 plain and 3 legged buffalo in the albums to begin with. It's really annoying. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I looked at the last bunch of his '22 sales and all buyers seem satisfied.
I looked at the pics (yes, crappy pics) and saw no obvious issues with the coins. Just because a seller has a bunch of an item doesn't mean that they are fake/altered...it just means he has a bunch of them.
Until a buyer does a better exam and returns the coin with comment then I REALLY doubt an outside party will get far.
He has been selling them for a LONG time and I would guess that someone would have submitted ONE of those MANY 22's for grading. They are quite a few that sold near $600. I doubt those sales were just to "fill a hole"...all gave good feedback
100% feedback over 2200 transactions....I doubt that ALL the buyers are clueless
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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IMO he's found a way to grind the D off of a 1922 D, and make the coins look aged...and have the same look. Just speaking for myself, it doesn't require much expertise in LWCs to notice these coins have a similarly suspicious appearance--an almost sanded-down and retoned "look" to the date area and odd color throughout.  But more importantly--backtracking their feedback as a buyer led me to no less than six purchases of 22-Ds. So he buys 22-Ds, but sells 22s w/o mintmarks--what's going on here is a no-brainer.  ~15 minutes of research turned up these purchases of 22-Ds. I'm sure I could find more matches with an exhaustive search  221549486349291245340830161427629671111466332441131282844071 (hidden best offer, cross-reference here) 390889314428 (another "hidden" best offer (nice try), cf. here) Quote:
100% feedback over 2200 transactions....I doubt that ALL the buyers are clueless But I also doubt that rating tells the whole story. People don't always find out they've been scammed and/or they refuse to admit it... Edited by DVCollector
11/16/2014 4:14 pm
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United States
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Accusing someone of selling fake coins in a public forum without definitive proof is not a good idea.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Of course it's a scam. Just like the guy mentioned on another thread selling original BU Morgan dollar rolls from the Carson City Bullion & Exchange Bank. These guys do it because there is money to be made. They'll keep doing it until 1) ebay puts a stop to it (highly doubtful); 2) they get arrested for fraud (highly doubtful); or 3) some buyer gets burned so bad they end up taking up matters In their own hands and pays the Seller a visit. |
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 United States
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Nice research DVCollector. Quote:
I looked at the pics (yes, crappy pics) and saw no obvious issues with the coins. Just because a seller has a bunch of an item doesn't mean that they are fake/altered...it just means he has a bunch of them.
There is obvious issues with the coins to those who know a bit about them and the die markers required to be present. Quote:
Accusing someone of selling fake coins in a public forum without definitive proof is not a good idea. There is definite proof, the seller is showing us a photos of fake coins. Pictures speak a thous...... I wonder if the fact the seller is from Puerto Rico makes it easier or harder to stop them. Probably a moot point though. It takes two to tango. Edited by edweather
11/16/2014 3:58 pm
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Accusing someone of selling fake coins in a public forum without definitive proof is not a good idea. The documentation I've turned up--rather easily I might add--speaks for itself.  |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I wonder if the fact the seller is from Puerto Rico makes it easier or harder to stop them. Probably a moot point though. It takes two to tango. No need to "wonder"..the auctions say where the item is located.. Quote:
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Ponce, PR, Puerto Rico
It doesn't matter where the item is shipped from. If buyers report items as altered or "SNAD" (Significantly not as described) the seller will have a hit and a couple of these hits will get them banished from ebay. This seller has been selling since 2006 and has a 100% feedback from over 2000 transactions. "Top rated Seller". I just find it hard to believe that ALL the buyers are clueless and blind but maybe they are. Would I buy one from this dude? Absolutely not...but not because of the auction presented. This one would be Captain Obvious to me...just a tad buffed over the MM.. http://www.ebay.com/itm/1922-VERY-W...047675.l2557 |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Really not a lot you or anyone can do about such things. Yes you can complain to ebay, the Federal government, the news media but at the end, such people will continue with the same stuff. Once in a while some of those are arrested and fined. Then back to what they were doing. Think of all the fakes coming in from China and other countries. Anyone stopping them? And it's not just coins. Have you gone to a flea market lately? Almost anything and everything is being sold there that is just not real. And seldom any taxes either. Coins are a rather easy target for people that mess with them. Some erase one of the legs on Indian Head Nickels. Many add letters for Mint marks such as 1916D Dimes. I worry more about what is in my toothpaste than those fake coins.   |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Hummm.....I think Foxwoods Man stumbled on something. Seller radiocheck from Ponce, Puerto Rico. I'm sure they aren't related to tubecheck from Ponce, Puerto Rice, even though they sell similar messed with 1922 no Ds Just more grist for the mill. Yea, not much to do about it but I'm a firm believer about, "what goes around.. |
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 "I don't know who he is behind that mask of his, but I know that we need him, and we need him now!" |
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