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 Posted 11/07/2014  7:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add g048406 to your friends list
1834 $2.50 Quarter Eagle ?
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 Posted 11/07/2014  7:54 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MeadowviewCollector to your friends list
The 1834 Capped Bust quarter Eagle's mintage was 4,000 likely heavily melted as the weight was reduced in the same year.
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 Posted 11/07/2014  7:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
1913 Liberty Head Nickel
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 Posted 11/07/2014  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Darth Morgan to your friends list
And remember that for decades there were rumors of the existence of the long lost 12,000 1895 business strike Morgan dollars. Sadly for me that rumor has been laid to rest. I would love it if we all were still able to contemplate the possible existence and whereabouts of these phantom 12,000.
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 Posted 11/07/2014  11:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
The Australian 1930 Penny
THAT coin has no mintage records either!

How about a U,S $100 gold Union? That coin does NOT exist, although designs were prepared.
Imagine! Four ounces of gold in a circulating coin!
Enough to pull your trousers down!
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 Posted 11/08/2014  03:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chetzler to your friends list
Wasn't there an actual pattern minted for a half-union?
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 Posted 11/08/2014  04:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Normic67 to your friends list
Sense I'm Canadian I was going to say Canadian dimes from 1922-1927 but with American coins I`ll say the 1827 Half Cent and the 1830 Half Cent.
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 Posted 11/08/2014  06:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Conder101 to your friends list
1852 Half Cent None made all known pieces are proof restrike made in the late 1850's

1873-CC dime Assume you mean the no arrows coin. Production began but in early Feb 1873 the weight was increased and the coins could not be issued. The unique surviving coin was probably the one sent the annual assay.

1866 quarter, half, and dollar no motto These were fantasy pieces made at a later date for private sale. The quarter and half are unique and there are two of the dollar. A set of these was stolen for DuPont in 1967. Their recover makes an interesting story in itself.


1873-CC quarter, no arrows similar to the 73-CC no arrows dime but apparently a few were released before the Feb weight increase. Five pieces known

1838-O half These were test pieces made to test striking qualities of the new design and then again later in New Orleans to test the die and press (The dies were too short for the press in New Orleans and they tried to compensate by adhering an additional block of steel under the reverse die. It didn't work. About 20 struck, ten in Philadelphia and ten in New Orleans, nine pieces known today.

1853-O half again I am assuming you mean the no arrows coins. Similar to the 1873 CC coins only this time the weights were reduced. Four pieces known , the last one turned up just recently in a group of silver pulled for circulation in the 1930's.

1873-S half, no arrows Similar to the 1873 CC coins, one piece sent to Philadelphia for the annual assay, the rest melted. None known today

1858 dollar Proof only issue Official records say 80 pieces but estimates for frequency of appearance suggest a closer estimate would be 350 pieces.

1870-S dollar In 1870 they laid the cornerstone of the second San Francisco Mint. A complete set of S mint coins were placed in the cornerstone. No coins were made for circulation of the Half Dime, quarter, silver dollar or three dollar gold. Apparently they struck a few pieces of each of these so they could select a nice one for the cornerstone. The duplicates are where the unique Half Dime and three dollar gold came from. Not sure why they made so many silver dollars, but nine of these are known today. The 1870 S quarter is the only "cornerstone" piece not known today.

1873-S dollar Assume you mean the Standard dollar. Same as the 1873 S no arrows Half dollar

1841 quarter eagle Not sure

1870-S three dollar gold piece See 70-S dollar

1841-O half eagle not sure

1854-S half eagle First year of issue from the San Francisco mint. They had problems with a shortage of parting acids needed for refining the gold. so mintage was very small.

1861-d $1 Gold The US did not make any gold dollars in Dahlonega before the state succeeded. All coins were struck by the Confederacy but they stopped because there was going to be a shortage of gold and they needed the bullion just for the southern cause.

1875, 1876 $3 Gold In these years the only way to get proof gold was to buy the full set, individual pieces were not sold. That was a HUGE amount of money at the time so mintage dropped through the floor.

1927-d $20 Saint Most of the double eagles struck in the later years never leaft the Treasury vaults. The Treasury did allow collectors to order two coins of each date and and mint for their collections. A few wealthy collectors did purchase examples for their collections and that is where the survivers known today came from.

Wasn't there an actual pattern minted for a half-union? Two different designs in 1877. Several were struck in copper and copper gilt. One specimen of each design was struck in gold. When William Woodin purchased them for $10K each it cause a commotion. In order to get them back the government traded a couple of TRUNKS of patterns for them. today they are in the Smithsonian
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 Posted 11/08/2014  08:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
Gold patterns for the $50 Half Union can be found on Google Images, but designs for the $100 gold Union never got beyond the paper stage.
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 Posted 11/08/2014  09:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add philadelphian to your friends list
What about the elusive New Hampshire copper, approved by the state assembly in 1776? Most examples, and perhaps all, are fabrications made in the 19th century based on the design described in the record of the New Hampshire House of Representatives. This one may lay the best claim to be genuine, or at least an original pattern coin:

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 Posted 11/10/2014  05:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dasaki to your friends list
on page 2 and no one has mentioned the 1964 Peace dollar yet?
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 Posted 11/10/2014  05:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Fuzzy317 to your friends list
Dasaki,
The 1964 Peace dollar was noted on the fourth post
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 Posted 11/10/2014  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jhp2104 to your friends list
Very informative thread. Just when I think I am starting to get a grasp on what coins are out their, I see lists like these and it reminds me of just how much more their is to learn.
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 Posted 11/10/2014  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jpsned to your friends list
I didn't include the 64 Peace dollar because it's not part of the Mint's regular mintage reports. All the coins in my original post were.
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 Posted 11/10/2014  11:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dasaki to your friends list
funny how much I miss when reading at 5 a.m. At work
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