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Bought 3 More Ancient Coins

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 Posted 12/01/2014  4:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list
I tried googling it and It seems to be a cornucopia counter mark

probably of Ptolemy V - VIII, not too sure which though
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12/01/2014 4:59 pm
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 Posted 12/01/2014  5:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I found a drachm of Alexander 1 Balas on VCOINS in this condition, dark patina, centred obverse strike.
Price: 995 Euros.
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12/01/2014 5:02 pm
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 Posted 12/01/2014  5:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list
Nice group of coins 'arnoldoe'.


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Any idea what the count mark is?


It is the cornucopia countermark.


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I tried googling it


The best online information I have found so far -> http://www.ptolemybronze.com/
with the first link http://www.megagem.com/ancient/ptolemy_series.html giving excellent information on the bronzes
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 Posted 12/01/2014  5:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
The counter mark looks like some type of animal, perhaps a lion.
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 Posted 12/01/2014  5:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list
seems similar to this one
thanks I looked at the site and found this one
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38mm - 45.6gm
Sv1149
S/SE Series
Ptolemy IV
looks pretty much the same?
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 Posted 12/01/2014  5:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Topcat7 to your friends list

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Why did the seller move it on for less than he bought it for.? Is he a dealer?


Dealers often put coins up to auction to see what the market will bear. With them it is a numbers game and what they lose out on with a few items they make up on with many.

Some sellers pay too much and want to get out of something.

I wouldn't worry, but if you are, I'd be happy to pay you what you paid for it?


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12/01/2014 5:54 pm
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 Posted 12/01/2014  6:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list
Yeah, the guy I bought it from probably just thought he could easily sell it for more since Savoca Coins sold 5 similar Alexander Balas drachms and each one went for around $120-180 ea, but since the head was off center on this one he was able to get it for a lot less.

I'm not too worried, I just hope it arrives
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 Posted 12/01/2014  6:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BuckeyeCoinGuy to your friends list
The guy he bought it off of did have a bunch of negative feedback, including fakes.
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 Posted 12/02/2014  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list
well, he does have over 12,000 sales in the past year, so some may have been fakes.
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12/02/2014 12:10 pm
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 Posted 12/02/2014  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
I would like to know the various places where the dealer gets his coins from, so that provenance can be proven.

It is my normal habit to prove the provenance with high priced ancient coins, if I can. Ask him where your drachm came from, hopefully with verified supporting evidence. He should be more than happy to provide this.

I have to admit this coin looks OK, from the pictures provided, but even the best dealers are fooled, although very rarely. His coins have a very consistent quality about them.

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12/02/2014 12:28 am
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 Posted 12/02/2014  11:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list

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I found a drachm of Alexander 1 Balas on VCOINS in this condition, dark patina, centred obverse strike.
Price: 995 Euros.

on CNG coins I looked at some of the past auctions
and most Alexander Balas drachms went for around 90-150 ea

the most expensive on went for $425 (below)
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and the cheapest one for $65(below)
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and the current ones up for auction have a estimate of 500 with a minimum bid of 300 and no bidders
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12/02/2014 11:58 pm
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 Posted 12/03/2014  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add chrsmat71 to your friends list
nice new coins arnoldoe, the apollo reverse on that seleucid is awesome, and that the countermarked ptolemy is cool also. a countermarked large ptolemy coin is on my to get list.
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 Posted 12/05/2014  11:46 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Arael to your friends list
Loving the Constantine II!
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 Posted 12/09/2014  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add arnoldoe to your friends list
The Alexander Balas Coin arrived already, faster than I thought it would take to get here, only 9 days from Australia to the middle of Canada.

Looks good and would say it is probably real, but does anyone else have any thoughts?
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 Posted 12/09/2014  10:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ancientnoob to your friends list
Yea I would bet its real. I would also bet that its much nicer in hand then in the photo.
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