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Suspicious 1948 Silver Dollar.....?

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 Posted 12/15/2014  2:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
When looking at the 3 samples you have provided the one that doesn't look like the others is B

- The shape of the 4 is slightly different
- There is very little detail in the "packs in the canoe"
- The "L" in dollar looks a bit different (smooshy is the word that comes to mind) when looking at the top of the serifs
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 Posted 12/15/2014  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lyradnoj to your friends list
The 4 & the 8 in example B are definitely different.
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 Posted 12/15/2014  3:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
I blew up the subject's date along with mine, also from a scan. Sorry for minor rotation on mine. I don't see enough to condemn based on such a bad image; it almost seems like the seller's scanner distorted the image. Note how the 1 seems to lean left.

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 Posted 12/15/2014  4:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gidjit to your friends list
i think the seller should work on getting some better images on such an expensive coin . I agree comparing with mine the 4 just doesn't look quite right although it could just be the poor image...if it is fake I would believe the seller didnt know himself...
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When I buy a high value coin, I make sure it was slabbed. This removes any doubt about authenticity .

i wouldnt be so quick to buy a certified coin assuming its real because it has been certified... the chinese also make fake slabs that look real good also,,,,always buy the coin not the holder!
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 Posted 12/15/2014  4:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
seller said he compared this coin with others he has and could not find a difference.
check his web site via the ebay listing.

Gidijt you are correct, unfortunately.
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 Posted 12/15/2014  4:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kbbpll to your friends list
Here's a different 1948 from seller's website. I could argue the 4 and 8 also look suspicious. It's ICCS MS62. Buy the coin, not the photo, I guess.

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 Posted 12/15/2014  4:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list

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I think that with these two points that the seller has made on their web page they aren't trying to pull the wool over anyone's eyes...

So it is my belieft that either this coin is not real and the seller doesn't know. Or this coin is real and the pictures aren't doing the coin justice.

I guess if I were going to be buying a '48 dollar and this is the one I decided upon.. I would send it in to get slabbed .... or arrange the seller to get it graded prior to purchase.. in either case if it came back in a body bag it wouldn't buy it or return for a refund!
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 Posted 12/15/2014  6:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billfrak to your friends list
I know this seller and his mentor (who specializes in
counterfeits). I do not believe either would sell a bogus
coin.
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 Posted 12/15/2014  6:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add skip79 to your friends list
As I mentioned, way back in the beginning of this thread, there are a number of indicators I spotted, not just the 4...the 4 was what initially caught my attention. Thanks 47P7 for the comparison image...you have far greater digital imagery skills (and perhaps, patience) than I do. I too know of this seller and I don't believe he would knowingly offer up a counterfeit piece for sale. But, it just further demonstrates that no matter how experienced someone may be, or how golden their reputation may be, counterfeits always seem to find cracks to fall into. An example that I noted on another thread recently: there were a couple fake gold lots spotted by a prospective buyer sitting adjacent to me at the Geoffrey Bell auction viewing table. If he hadn't brought the fakes to the auctioneer's attention, the fakes would have been auctioned off that evening.
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 Posted 12/15/2014  7:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wert to your friends list
If it is a fake..They are pretty darn accurate..see picture below.

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 Posted 12/15/2014  8:00 pm  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list
I was sort of keeping quiet on this one... but here is a big clue...

Study the serifs on both the obverse and reverse legends... (hint: start with the N of CANADA on the reverse).
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 Posted 12/15/2014  9:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DEVLEC to your friends list
Without looking at my own,..I would say that the "B" is wrong...if looking at the "N" and "I" serifs.
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 Posted 12/15/2014  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
Wert, your 11-1700 line hits 2 markers
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 Posted 12/16/2014  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add 47P7 to your friends list
here is another..
look at George's upper forehead hairdo, the end of his nostril and ear
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 Posted 12/16/2014  1:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add AgCoinAu to your friends list
I agree but couldn't put words to it.. but the portrait (A & C) looks like its sitting more "proud" than the other (B)... if that makes any sense?

*So if this is a fake and not some sort of optical illusion from photography.. where is this kind of fake from?
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