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Fake Trajan Decius Aureus.

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 Posted 12/27/2014  9:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list
If I were to bid on this piece, I would want it to be XRF'ed to verify it, looking for trace metals, not gold. The ancients knew nothing of electrolytic gold refining.

Why on Earth would a seller put up such a highly potentially valuable genuine coin, without a provable provenance?
Without such information, this piece HAS to be considered to be suspicious.
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 Posted 12/27/2014  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
I think FVRIVS RVFVS summed up the seller very well. And yes this sale reeks of suspicion, but hey my friend didn't lose $1000 and I get a free lunch tomorrow so I can't complain.
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 Posted 12/28/2014  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
it ended at £2650, that's over $4,000.
Disgraceful.
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 Posted 12/28/2014  6:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
That is crazy and immoral Oh well at least the lunch was good.
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 Posted 12/28/2014  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
It figures ebay didn't do anything. I few sorry for whoever bought it. That's a $4100 loss. Shame of Saxby and shame on ebay.
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 Posted 12/29/2014  05:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add maridvnvm to your friends list
The Hostilian he had running bagged hime even more... £3,766, over $5,800 and is equally fake.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/14151505396...sid=p2055119
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 Posted 12/29/2014  08:30 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Augustus Maximus to your friends list
I don't want to live on this planet any more. Saxby=Crook
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 Posted 12/29/2014  1:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
Are there any type of laws in the UK that prevent the sale of fake antiquities?
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 Posted 12/29/2014  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Biancasdad to your friends list
It makes my blood boil to think this guy routinely gets away with his crimes. Having said that, you would think the buyer would take at least a smidgen of precaution and do the tiniest bit of research before shelling out this type of money.

Type in Decius Aureus on forgery network and the first coin that appears is the die match to this one.

It reminds me of pedestrians who have the right away when crossing the street, sometimes wearing all dark clothes on a darkly lit crosswalk, and just strut out there without the slightest concern just assuming that nothing bad could ever happen

Same thing with the Hostilian, first coin that pops up on Forgery Network
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12/29/2014 3:26 pm
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 Posted 12/29/2014  3:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
There should be something under Fraud, but I don't see anything on the website that actually guarantees the items as genuine. If I shelled out a huge amount of money, I would definitely have it authenticated immediately after purchase. I doubt that I would shell out thousands for a coin with no provenance in the first place.
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 Posted 12/29/2014  7:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add echizento to your friends list
A simple check of his feedback shows that he has sold fake coins in the past. I blame ebay for allowing him to continue selling. Though I guess even if they blocked him he can come back under another name. I don"t believe ebay tracks IP addresses.
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 Posted 12/29/2014  7:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Medieval to your friends list
He certainly would come back under another name, but at least he would have to start with a low sale count which might make people more cautious.
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 Posted 12/30/2014  05:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pishpash to your friends list
I think that at the end of the day he makes ebay a lot of money, and that outweighs anything else.
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 Posted 12/30/2014  07:17 am  Show Profile   Check MetDet71's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add MetDet71 to your friends list
That is absolutely disgraceful...
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 Posted 12/30/2014  08:49 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add josephrg to your friends list
At one time ebay did not hide the idenities of the bidders.I remember on a couple of occasions I was able to contact the buyer and alert them to a possible fake or shill bidding.Ebay has done more to protect sellers than buyers
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