Coin Care Product Feedback Please

As someone who derives all his income from the petrochemical industry and honestly believes the science behind it, it is difficult in hindsight to say that fracking and the keystone pipeline are worthwhile at this point in time.

As a coin collector wanting to loosely tie this off topic remotely back to the realm of coins, this is what happens when a society debases its money. The near zero percent financing for corporations has funded malinvestment. Much of this malinvestment has gone into energy / petrochemicals. New fracking will not be economical any time soon. The pipeline really isn't needed anymore. Too late to mean much of anything now other than a political football to be spiked.


Historically one the reasons we got neat new coins was because the government / king was not a competent manager and needed to debase the money to pay for his / her incompetence. If it wasn't that, they just wanted their image on the money. Most tyrants have big egos like that.

I find it interesting that the founding fathers of this nation made the debasement of our gold and silver currency absolutely punishable by death, despite being great defenders of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Equally interesting that Jesus used violence against these same money changers. To me, the Federal Reserve Note is not the US Dollar. Our money was literally changed and the arc of our great nation was permanently lowered as a result.


Gresham's Law (debased or bad money drives good money out of circulation) is the reason coin collecting started in the first place.


I understand people grade coins their own way, and generally I like the ANA book on grading. I do disagree with the prime focal areas though. The prime focal area on any coin to me is the word Liberty. I hope to someday soon see the return of Lady Liberty to all our coinage and society in general.

The op failed to mention which particular product caused this "cloud".

It's always helpful to place a 'quote' as above especially when more than one product is under discussion in the same thread...

Please clarify which one it is.

Also, irrespective of the particular oil-like product activity in use would not a post acetone rinse applied via a cotton swap poking/30 degree twist take care of any non-polar hydrocarbon-like substance like oil negating the concern for this aforementioned pre-flip-insertion issue?

Acetone ideally possesses both polar and non-polar components in the possible unlikely event the conservation oil in question embodies multiple minute elements like lubricants and fuel oil both allegedly present in refined petroleum-like compounds.

For those wondering about the perceived non-pertinence of those petroleum-like substances that I refer to, this concern may nonetheless still be of interest to some since the matter of flash points never arose in this discussion.

Instead of purchasing STUFF to clean coins, why not use that money to just buy coins?

The answer is because I do not like dirty coins. I would have thought that the answer to that question was obvious, but as this world is big enough for different opinions, we can share them in this forum.
I don't know if coins carry enough germs to warrant hygienic motives, but certainly economic and aesthetic factors come in to play. Any coin that retains crud has a greater opportunity to retain moisture and corrosive chemicals. Over time that can damage the coin and certainly it's value. Simply based on appearance, clean coins are more appealing and pleasant to look at. The market will support my assertions.
If I really believed that there was a large body of collectors that prefer dirty coins, I would get together with BadThad and market a product called CoinCrud - a waxy substance filled with carbon, powdered quartz and dissolved acids.
But I don't think that's what collectors really want.
I remove the harmful junk from my car, kitchen utensils, target rifle and even my own body. And when done properly, I like the results. Your opinions may vary.

Don't wanna hijack this post but I feel like this is very relevant:

i bought a roll of LWCs from an antique/coin shop over the weekend. It was labeled "different dates/mints" and was $5. I thought it was a bit overpriced but what I got was almost every pds of from the 40's to 50's with MANY in BU condition, pretty sweet. On closer inspection, I noticed a lot of the brown cents looked oily, although not unappealing. It made me think of this post, soI took some cents from another bulk bag I bought (they were actually awful, most had verdigris or were worn) and compared them side by side:






There are many coins in this roll that would be upgrades for my LWC album. I was just going to do my standard acetone soak, but now I'm thinking I may need to rinse them in xylene first? I don't own any xylene, i'd prefer to just acetone them and be done with it. Does the coin care stuff damage the coin, or just give it an oily look that people don't like?

Turbo - Just use xylene, there's no need to use water and acetone if you suspect there's oil on the surface. Just rinse with xylene, let dry a couple of minutes and you're done.

Mineral oil will dissolve any non-polar, organic residue on the surface, e.g. any materials soluble in oil.

Personally, I hate coins that have oil on them. Oils are complex mixtures of various hydrocarbons and can only be removed with xylene and, in the process, may remove or disturb the patina. Also, the lighter components will evaporate over time leaving gaps in any oxidative protection. Additionally, oils typically contain trace dissolved elements such as sulfur, chlorine and phosphorus which are reactive to metals. DO NOT USE OILS ON COINS.