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Finally Ebay Is Going Over The Cliff

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 Posted 02/02/2015  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
tella,

Apple is the wealthiest corporation with a 691 Billion USD Market Cap.

ebay is not even close @ 66 Billion.
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 Posted 02/03/2015  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add squaremealroundplate to your friends list
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Only a very very small minority ever use auctions houses. They don't have the immediacy which ebay, the fabulous FREE of any FEES Australian " quicksales.com.au "( previously Oztion), and the many rapidly growing internet sales sites popping up in many countries.
ebay was the trailblazer who introduced us all to the world of internet online shopping for anything and everything - you name it, they had 1000's of each item in size, colour, brand, etc.
ebay's monopoly and income growth began to decline some 3 years ago, thus their desperate fees increases. ( I wrote the example of ebay fees of today and what they were 3 years ago in an earlier post )
Because of the APPs revolution very much upon us, we don't have to use ebay, as we once did, for 1000's of different items any more. If you want a shirt you can Google " Myer" or just click eg the Myer APP, or BigW, anything electonic, etc, Dick Smith or Harvey Norman, etc and brouse for whenever you want, as you could with ebay.
Therein lays the problem ebay has - APPs. This is the reason why ebay is becoming like a Black and White TV - great until Colour TV came along.

Because ebay was looking at their great success of the past through a rear vision mirror, they forgot to consider their ONE most important asset - their sellers, without whom there wouldn't be any buyers.
So instead of nurturing and walking in unison for mutual benefit with the sellers ( worldwide ) they took the short term option for maintaining their obviously declining bottom line, and increased all the fees they charged their " bread and butter " income stream - the sellers.

What I would like to see via this highly informative and effective forum, is forum memebers tell one and all Australians about our very own " quicksales.com.au ". If we all work to tell everyone, quicksales.com.au will eventualy have the familiar catchcry that Maccas, Bunnings, Harvey Norman, etc, has.

Yep, the all Australian quicksales.com.au - catchcry ? " Quicky " ...



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 Posted 02/03/2015  10:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tella to your friends list
I got excited, multi billion dollar corporation. Yes "quicksales" is another avenue of selling, just like "gumtree" and the list goes on and on. Looking at the big picture, once again, I bring up "facebook". The biggest and most active website in the world (if it isn't, it would be darn close). Honestly, if you don't have a facebook account, you are living in the past. As I said in the previous statement, some of these Australian facebook auction sites have over 4000 members, the main one is getting closer to 6000. That's a massive audience for selling items just in numismatics. As I stated before, ebay and some of these auction houses may need to have a think before hiking fee's as there are plenty of other avenues for the seller to choose from.
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 Posted 02/03/2015  11:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add squaremealroundplate to your friends list

tella

Gumtree is owned by ebay.

You might like to help spread the word about the excellent Australian owned ALL Fee FREE internet site " quicksales.com.au " through your facebook page.

It's a little quiet on " quicksales " at the moment, because it doesn't, as yet, have enough Austalians aware that it exists. Many sellers, both ex and current ebay sellers, are all there along with others.
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 Posted 02/05/2015  5:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list
I'm also starting to sell on Quicksales, which I only discovered a couple of weeks ago. This is for many reasons, not only, but including, hefty ebay fees.

However, this will be for items of Australian relevance only. Unfortunately, for global reach, ebay remains unparalleled. When you have material from all over the world to sell, as I do, there isn't an alternative.

Is Gumtree really owned by ebay? If so, I'm shocked.
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02/05/2015 5:34 pm
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 Posted 02/05/2015  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jimjamtwo to your friends list
Facebook auction sites? Now that's another new one to me. Can you tell us more, tella?

I'm not sure how that would work, if it were connected to one's personal Facebook page.
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 Posted 02/05/2015  6:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list

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Facebook auction sites? Now that's another new one to me. Can you tell us more, tella?


Yeah,any links to the main ones in Oz. as I can never find them.I found one based in FN Qld. but it seems overpriced the couple of times I visited.

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Lets not forget that the major auction houses have also recently lifted their buyers premiums from 15% to almost 20%. Indirectly that will also affect the sellers.

ebay has virtually a monopoly on consumer sales and auctions which is why most sellers still use it. It is the way to access the most potential buyers and it is still cheaper than major auction houses.

ebay will be around for a few Years yet but I can't understand why they want to kill the Golden Goose by maximising profit to the nth degree.
Selling Coins has always been expensive thou.,back in the 1970/80's I inserted buy/sell Classified Ads. in the SMH.,Age & CM and a couple of weeks later when the "Please Pay" slips turned up it ripped the inside out of any profits or cheap buys you made.
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02/05/2015 6:22 pm
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 Posted 02/05/2015  10:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list
Thanks...i'll have a look.
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 Posted 02/09/2015  02:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tella to your friends list
Stevo is onto it, the third one down is one of the biggest and active
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 Posted 02/09/2015  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add shanew to your friends list
yes it has a sister site a questions page well ... tip don't have a diferring opinion you wont stay long if you disagree gone of with your head
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 Posted 02/09/2015  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add squaremealroundplate to your friends list

jimjamtwo

ebay bought Gumtree August 2005 to short circuit any potential opposition.

ebay is trying to sell Paypal, so Paypal's fee is going up from 2.3% + 30c to 2.6% + 30c from February 15 2015. Not bad if you can get away with increasing any fee by over 11% !!

That's why I believe quicksales will have a gradual increase in disgruntled fed up ex ebay sellers, and enjoy not having any listing or FVF's to pay, along with the freedom of choosing to have payments for sales paid for via Direct online bank deposit.

We have a voice, so why don't we start spreading the word about the existance of Australia's quicksales? We can all join in to build quicksales for the mutual benefit of we, the sellers, our buyers and quicksales.

It'll cost us all exactly nothing. Think about it. Our efforts will cost us nothing, while we stand to gain by listing all we want to list for FREE, and not having our pockets picked by hungry ebay's listing, FVF's and the great con that Paypal is.



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 Posted 02/09/2015  10:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadToTheBone to your friends list
Wow I know ebay is tough on sellers but for consumers its great; I buy most of my coins off of ebay. Some of the reasons being my purchase price is protected in case I don't receive my coin and I can reasonably be assured I'm getting what is advertised also ebay bucks has gotten me a few coins at no cost. Then consider the selection and if you look for a particular coin long enough you can usually find it. Ipso facto I ended up buying the complete Booker T. Washington classic silver commemorative halves in MS64-MS66, but it took me 3 years to do so. I will say that I've purchased most of them at less than the FMV listed for said coins. Also as I stock holder in ebay its been good for my portfolio. I will say that when ebay has asked for my opinion I have always stated that the sellers fee's should be more reasonable because it would be better for all in the long run. Now Paypal is another story because I have had my problems with them in the past but they seem to have done better now for the buyers. I'm sure they are killing the sellers with added fee's. Maybe ebay will wake up one day and remember the sellers and also the buyers are what made ebay.
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 Posted 02/09/2015  10:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Basil to your friends list

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Maybe ebay will wake up one day and remember the sellers and also the buyers are what made ebay.


Yeah,i agree with most of your comments,majority of my Coin buying is done on ebay for the reasons you have stated.
But....without sellers the whole house comes crumbling down,as history tells us it doesn't happen overnite,it starts as a brick here and a brick there and when they wake up to whats going on its too late,the Golden Goose is dead.
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02/09/2015 11:00 pm
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 Posted 02/09/2015  11:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tella to your friends list
I think half the wall has disappeared in the Aussie sellers
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