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Pillar of the Community
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I will say MS63RB, send it in and let us know.
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Forum Kid
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MS-63 RD or RB  |
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Bedrock of the Community
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63, very nice looking 31S.
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Valued Member
United States
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Hi Paul B, can you share the result of the grade?
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Bedrock of the Community
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Pillar of the Community
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Way better than mine (my current avatar)! MS-63 RD! Send it in!
EDIT: turns out I already posted here... Woops...
Edited by ChildOfTheWheat
03/15/2015 6:59 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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I got the coin back from NGC today and was quite disappointed to discover it had received a purple label grade of "Uncirculated Details - Altered Color." I wrote the seller to inform him and he has offered me a full refund even though I bought the coin a month and a half ago. He says NGC is "off base" with the "altered color" assessment. I would not have guessed it.  Paul Bulgerin
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Pillar of the Community
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Wow. Did not see that coming.
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Pillar of the Community
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What exactly does that mean? If it's not cleaned how do you get to an altered color?
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Bedrock of the Community
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I presume what they mean when they say, 'altered color' that it means, artificially toned. I think whoever graded this coin was having a bad day.  |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Paul - I'd KEEP that coin. It's a nice example based on the pictures I'm seeing.
NGC is wrong, once again. I've had the same problem with them in the past of several coins. If you must have it slabbed, crack it and submit to PCGS. Or you can do what I've done a couple of times with NGC. Set the coin on a window sill for a few months, let it tone down and then resubmit. I can almost guarantee it will come back in a problem-free slab.
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Pillar of the Community
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Thanks for the responses. I emailed the seller that I'm going to keep it. I'll take BadThad's advice and crack it out of the holder. Fortunately, it was only an $18 submission. I'll leave it in the sun to tone down a bit. The coin looks nice to me, but I had an Indian Head cent come back from NGC last year also listed as "altered color" so I am still pretty much in the dark on how this is done and what to look for. Paul Bulgerin
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Bedrock of the Community
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Keep in mind, that's a generic excuse from a TPG. It does NOT mean conclusively that the coin has been altered. It simply means it doesn't have "the look" they are after for coins in their holders....which REALLY surprises me based on your pictures. I had a 22D come back from PCGS as "colored" years ago. I left in a window sill for almost a year (with occassional flipping), it changed a to little more brown than red, I resubmitted and it came back MS-63RB. NEVER discard your coins rejected by a TPG for anything color (unless it's very obvious). My local dealer has shown me well over 100 copper slabs over the years that came back from the TPGs for "color" issues. He and I both disagreed with probably 99% of those he showed me. |
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Paul,
If it were me I'd keep that coin and take it out of the slab, place it in a airtite! That's a really nice 31-S and I am stunned by NGC's opinion (based on the pic's).
It's a keeper!
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Pillar of the Community
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Quote:Keep in mind, that's a generic excuse from a TPG. It does NOT mean conclusively that the coin has been altered. It simply means it doesn't have "the look" they are after for coins in their holders....which REALLY surprises me based on your pictures. and why I really don't like NGC for any copper or copper/bronze coinage, they seem to call altered on way too many, and I don't understand it since none of the TPG's guarantees apply to color on copper or copper/bronze alloyed coinage. "Buy the Book Before You Buy the Coin" - Aaron R. Feldman - "And read it" - Me 2013! ANA Life Member #3288 in good standing since 1981, ANS, Early American Coppers Member (EAC), Colonial Coin Collectors Club member (C4), Conder Token Collector Club member (CTCC), Civil War Token Society (CWTS) member, Liberty Seated Collectors Club (LSCC) & Numismatic Bibliomania Society member (NBS), USMex, Member in good standing, 2¢ variety collector. See my want page: http://goccf.com/t/140440 |
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